• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    From an outsider perspective, the Dems may be hopeless neoliberals, but isn’t it more:

    R: hehe sure we will hehehe

    D: here’s a set of policies that should improve things

    Voters: too complicated, just say yes.

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      The Dems proposals are crumbs on what we should have. Universal health and education for example, never make it out of the primaries. Very few Democrats, really the ones that are Democrats so they don’t have to start a Social Democrat party, espouse that stuff. The rest of the party thinks a minimum wage increase will be enough and they can’t even get that done.

      In reality we need real cost of living counterweights. Government run grocery stores and basic retail. Private businesses literally told everyone that abnormal inflation after the pandemic was just them price gouging. And we’re supposed to take a single policy that would have been good in 2005 as proof Democrats “get it”?

      Fuck no.

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        7 days ago

        Free public housing. Rent is crushing us. The for profit home/apartment building corporations have failed at their job. Even if you are most gracious and say they are held back by red tape, guess who can cut through it?

        This is a housing crisis. At least in the judge dredd universe they had the mega cities…

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          Free isn’t really realistic at the scale we need it. We can make it free for people who are that destitute, but most of us just need housing at a reasonable rate.

          Luckily, if I spend 30 million dollars to build 60 bachelor or couples units I can easily reserve a few for that. And the other 50 units will easily cover the cost of the building, maintenance, and remodels, over the next 50 years. Just charging them purely “at cost” would amount to about 1,500 dollars a month. And that’s in the places where it’s expensive to build. So other rentals are going for 3,000 for bachelor’s and couples in that area and the net effect is to drop an anchor in the housing market there.

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        8 days ago

        Well said. I think they get that things have gone too far, but just don’t care / don’t know how to make it better at this point. And Dems definitely aren’t interested in listening to good ideas from the left, so…here we are.

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      8 days ago

      Not really, it’s more like Dems give 5-10% of what they promise, and everything else is robbing from the working class to further cement the established power structure. That 5-10% is normally supposed to keep a lid on open revolt, but at a time when housing prices have doubled and food costs have tripled, that’s just not enough anymore.

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      8 days ago

      Yea pretty much, Rs will line their pockets in the cruelest way possible through hate and fear and won’t even bother with breadcrumbs

      Ds will line their pockets, but try to make sound policies and make gradual improvements that balances corporate interests with the peoples interest.

      The sound policies are “too complicated” for the average voter and the whole “gradual improvements balanced against corporations interests” piss off those on the further left (Hence the whole bLuEmAGa bullshit)

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        8 days ago

        There’s no balancing. It’s the people’s interests if a corporation isn’t inconvenienced.

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      8 days ago

      That’s correct. This is a rather old post when Dems had power but kept getting cock blocked in Senate Trump mostly won because he said yes and stupid people ate it up, so you version is much more apt for today.