• Synapse@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Let’s compare the update process when you want to shutdown your computer:

    Windows:

    1. Doesn’t leave you the choice: your getting updated now, deal with it
    2. Starts to update
    3. Reboots, update for 2 minutes (wasn’t that bad)
    4. Reboots again, updates for 15 minutes (come on man, I’m gonna miss my train !)
    5. Reboots AGAIN ! continue and eventually finishes the update
    6. Shutdown

    Fedora:

    1. We have downloaded updates, do you want to Install them before shutdown?
    2. Not this time, thank you
    3. Shutdown Or if you do let it install, reboots always just once, updates 2 minutes, done.

    If you have disk encryption or bitlocker, you just can’t let the PC update unattended. Not knowing how many times windows needs to reboot for this update is hella annoying.

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      3 months ago

      I shutdown on windows without updating all the time. Not sure where you’re getting no choice from.

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      3 months ago
      1. Doesn’t leave you the choice: your getting updated now, deal with it

      Interesting, my W11 allows me the choice between ‘Shutdown’ and ‘Update and shutdown’. I’ve never had it force an update on me.

      For the other points: are you still running Windows on spinning rust or something? I’ve never seen update take longer than a few minutes at most. And why are you waiting for Windows to do its thing? Choose ‘Update and Shutdown’ and go catch that train.

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        3 months ago

        Only time I have no choice is when I’ve been putting that update off, and off, and off, for a while. I see that little orange dot but I either ignore it, or I snooze it, or whatever. And one day windows is like all right dude, you gotta do this, let’s go.

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        3 months ago

        Maybe I don’t get choice because it’s the laptop provided by my company for work. It’s not old rust, it’s new from this year and has 32GB or RAM and and SSD and a rather powerful CPU. It is fucking slow to do anything tho ! My older laptop still had windows 10 and would take 30s to boot up, this new one takes 5 to 10 minutes ! Just open a Excel sheet takes 45 seconds…

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          3 months ago

          Could be they enforce the update process through policies, while annoying that is not a bad thing perse. On my Linux machine I can run an ancient kernel, leaky libraries and all kinds of vulnerable software and my employer would be none the wiser. Everybody is responsible for maintaining their own machine, no matter if they run Windows or Linux. That’s the other side of the spectrum and pretty bad from a security perspective, in all honesty.

          Your slowness could be caused by BitLocker being enabled on an SSD not supporting hardware encryption, causing Windows to do the encryption in software mode. That uses the CPU for encryption and can drastically reduce performance. Might be worth checking out, with those specs Windows really should not be slow.