• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Too late.

    Americans chose to abandon Ukraine when they elected Donald Trump and his Republican enablers.

    Russia will win, there will be one less democratic nation on the planet, Russia will expand their borders, and Europe/NATO will be threatened.

    Thanks conservatives, 3rd party voters, single issue voters, and non-voters. You really thought this one through.

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      What’s the issue you have with a non democratic country?

      I genuinely think most people (I used to just think most Americans) don’t understand the alternatives.

      Democracy has been proven not to work, and those involved in it will tell you that they agree, but there’s no better option. -

      Which if you think about it, isn’t really an answer.

      It’s like saying: Democracy doesn’t work, mathematically or otherwise. Try something that doesn’t breed corruption. They all do, democracy is just the best corruption.

      Which is bullshit. Mixing it up is the best way to stop the corruption.

      We need a lot of anarchy in the world right now, otherwise we’re just the fertilizer for power families. Our grandkids are fucked in general, except for the few that get a break.

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        2 days ago

        This comment is a great example of why electing a party that runs on deconstructing the public education system is an awful idea.

        We’re gonna start seeing ignorant comments like this way more often going forward.

        Buckle up.

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          When you say “ignorant comments like this” after you referring to yours?

          Genuine question.

          Democracy doesn’t work. The smaller countries notice it moreso. But the size of the US running a two part t system is insane, and not a true democracy. I wasn’t attacking anything but the platform that they use.

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        Ah yes, one more country being puppeted by Russia, a country infamous for it’s corruption, will decrease corruption. /s

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    While they won’t be able to reach Moscow with these, even from within Kursk, I am willing to bet the authorization was withheld on intelligence grounds. A lot of things in the war make sense if you look at it from the perspective that arms support can’t be guaranteed.

    Instead of letting Ukraine just burn through weapons, the US and allies have waited until they have the full operational capability to deploy the weapons with extreme effectiveness. They’ve had ATACMS for a while, so I suspect they held off deep strikes until the most effective targets had been identified and the likelihood of effective strike was near certain.

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      That’s giving everyone involved a lot of credit. To be honest, I sort of doubt these decisions were quite that rational.

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        Blindly stumbling along then trying to pretend it was 4D chess all along sounds much more like us

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    I believe NYT makes you login, even on a gift link. Here is a TLDR:

    President Biden has authorized Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) to strike Russian and North Korean forces in Russia, a significant shift in U.S. policy. This decision comes in response to Russia’s introduction of North Korean troops into the conflict and their anticipated assault on Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region.

    The move reflects growing concerns over Ukraine’s ability to withstand simultaneous assaults while defending territory. The authorization aims to bolster Ukraine’s defense, target high-value military assets, and deter North Korean involvement. However, it has sparked debate among U.S. officials over escalation risks, as Russia might retaliate against the U.S. or its allies.

    President-elect Donald Trump, who has vowed to reduce U.S. support for Ukraine, is set to take office in two months, adding urgency to the decision. The Ukrainian strategy may include using captured Russian territory in Kursk as leverage in potential future negotiations. Meanwhile, the risk of Russian countermeasures remains a central concern for Biden’s administration and its allies.

    My take: I’ve been waiting on this since the US election. It’s sound strategy of we believe Putin won’t want to escalate with NATO before Trump takes office.

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    They only have 300 km range. They are very nice but still. Pretty sure Ukraine has struck further inland with drones.

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    I feel like I’m alone in perceiving this as a bad thing. Ukraine will never win this war because Russia will just throw warm biddies in the front lines like they always have. And if something like this does end up making an impact they can fall back on nuclear weapons and then we’re all dead.

    What am I missing here?

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      The rational move by Russia would be to withdraw from Ukraine before launching nukes. Nobody wants to conquer irradiated land, and the Ukranians would agree to a ceasefire.

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    something about this seems kind of fucky. the time to do this was years ago. what is brandon’s calculation? that russia won’t do shit because their bitch is taking over? or is he finally convinced, somehow, that russia could never do shit in the first place?

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      I’m gonna preface this by saying I totally don’t support this so don’t shoot the messenger, but half of it was that Russia doesn’t have the resources to prolong this war indefinitely. For every dollar Ukraine spends Russia loses a couple, for every Ukrainian casualty there are well over half a dozen Russian casualties. Russia staying in this war is catastrophic for Russia so there are geopolitical reasons for people wanting this war to not end but to continue. Eventually Russia would be forced to give up.

      But, now time is suddenly on Russia’s side because the new administration will likely withold aid in an attempt to broker a deal that will almost certainly involve ceding Russian-occupied land, so it’s basically a Hail Mary play right now. No more playing defense, push right to the end zone before the buzzer goes off. If they can actually strike where DPRK troops are staging, hopefully Europe can continue in the absence of the US, that kind of thing

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        it smacks of desperation. but whatever damages russia can only be seen as a boon for humanity. i think brandon may be trying to salvage some positive glimmer in what is otherwise his historic failure of a presidency.

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          Opine if that besoothes you, but Russia’s benchmark rate is >20%, their inflation is equally bonkers, and they’re now leaning on North Korean troops. There is definitely desperation in this war

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            it’s obviously a desperate attempt at fixing his epic cowardly fuckup in ukraine. both sides can be desparate, in case you are unaware.