now, anyone wants to talk about how many times do muslims curse non-muslims (and that too idol worshipers) in their daily 5 prayers?

sorry can’t do that

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    now, anyone wants to talk about how many times do muslims curse non-muslims (and that too idol worshipers) in their daily 5 prayers?

    I’m pretty sure the answer is zero.

    The 5 daily prayers (called salah) follow a script, and none of it involves cursing non-Muslims.

    (Salah is different from dua, a form of prayer where a Muslim requests something from God. That doesn’t follow a script.)

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      salah involves surat al fatihah followed by either quls or in many cases baqarah

      here is what baqarah says about non-muslims

      “For disbelievers is a painful doom.” 2:104 Allah will make disbelievers’ lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114 They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167 Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257 Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88

      and this is barely touching the rest,

      here is the short 5 prayers you can see for yourself

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        No one is reciting surah baqarah in daily prayers you dope, its so long that it would make prayers a multi hour long affair. At least try to come up with better lies when you try to slander a group of people

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          did you even check the link i submited ? surat al baqrah is not the only one that calls out for violence

          Surah 63 condemns “hypocrites,” those who have renounced their Muslim faith. “They are the enemy. Guard yourself against them.”

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            Where is the call for violence?

            The surah you linked is about how a dude and his wife will burn in hell, and how there wealth won’t save them.

            Guarding yourself doesn’t have to be violent.

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                And you know off the top of your head the chapter and verse of a random ayat recited by your imam (in Arabic)?

                Also, you seem rather negative about Islam for a person who attends asr prayers.

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                Why do you post random ayats that no one would usually say in prayer?

                Why are you posting ayats without the proper contexts, almost like you trying to misconstrue the meaning of things?

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        I don’t know where you got the idea that reciting sura al-Baqarah is a common part of salah.

        Reciting a sura from the Quran is part of salah, but usually the reciter will choose one of the short suras from near the back of the Quran (known as the quls).

        Sura al-Baqarah is the longest sura in the Quran, being 286 verses long, and it is quite rare to recite it during the five-times daily salah, because no one has time for that, and not many people know it by heart.

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          One of the short o es like al Bayyina?

          “Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.” (QS. Al-Bayyina: Verse 6)

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            One of the four quls (which Muslims are encouraged to memorize, and which are usually used in salah) says:

            O Al-Kafiroun [non-Muslims]! I worship not that which you worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion and to me my religion.

            It’s in the article I linked above.

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            and that’s the job of imams

            Usually people do the five daily prayers in their homes or places of work with no imam around. They might go to a mosque once a week on Friday and hear an imam lead the prayer, and yes, the imam could decide to recite sura al-Baqarah (if the imam doesn’t mind trying the patience and stamina of the congregation, who would have to stand in prayer for an hour while the imam finishes reciting it), but that would be unusual. And even if that did happen, it’s not happening five times a day.

            It’s more likely that Muslims would hear sura al-Baqarah once a year, during Ramadan, when the entire Quran is read over 30 nights.

            idk what mazhab you follow are you a shia?

            I didn’t say I was a Muslim.

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    Lots of Islamophobia in the comments here. It should be noted that plenty of Torah and Bible (several different versions) verses call for actions against one’s enemies.

    So why do some people act as though only the Quran does it (edited to make my point clearer).

    All religion is trash, just let this shit go.

    And here. Cherry picking and out of context, like the other guy’s:

    Zechariah 14:2 2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

    Zechariah 10:5 5 Together they will be like warriors in battle trampling their enemy into the mud of the streets. They will fight because the LORD is with them, and they will put the enemy horsemen to shame

    Jeremiah 51:20 ESV “You are my hammer and weapon of war: with you I break nations in pieces; with you I destroy kingdoms;

    Isaiah 19:2 ESV And I will stir up Egyptians against Egyptians, and they will fight, each against another and each against his neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom;