• doctorskull@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    With all due respect to her history and career, I don’t give a fuck what Nancy Pelosi thinks about any of this. I don’t want to see her or hear about her or any other 80+ year old establishment liberal for the rest of their lives. They did their time. Now it’s time to retire from public service and live a cushy life with the grandkids and let the next generation take over.

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    Now Nancy wants open primaries at the DNC? Unlike the last 20 years when she was one of the kingmakers in the party?

    This fucking party needs to push these fuckers into their graves and get on with preparing for the nightmare they will be contending with over the next 4+ years.

    Nancy can fuck right off until she can’t fuck off anymore. She got hers.

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    Pelosi pushed Biden out of office, and now believes he didn’t submit fast enough. She takes no responsibility for anything. If Harris only had a few more weeks…right Nancy?

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    They are all complicit. There could have easily been a primary. They could have easily not backed him as the candidate. But they allowed him to wait and they approved no democratic process for electing the next candidate. Zero accountability from the democrats as usual.

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      Perfect summary. Harris did a superb job of instantly uniting them under her banner the second it became obvious Biden was fucked. This navel gazing from Pelosi is utter nonsense.

      North of 10M voters who turned out for Biden didn’t show up for Harris. She was a great candidate but the democrats message didn’t resonate after the years of inflation.

      My eggs are more expensive too. So are everyone elses in the world. I just blame Putin for destabilising and the stores for blatant price gouging the second they felt they could.

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    12 days ago

    I think the dems have been losing for decades in essentially every political arena because the repubs have cartoon villain mastermind Mitch McConnell pulling the strings and the dems have fucking Nancy Pelosi behind the curtain fixing races against Bernie, etc.

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      12 days ago

      This is the same woman who told her constituents to “go back to China” after they so selfishly demanded a ceasfire in Gaza.

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    The Times reported Pelosi also took issue with Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders saying, after Harris’ loss, that “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.”

    “Bernie Sanders has not won,” she said. “With all due respect, and I have a great deal of respect for him, for what he stands for, but I don’t respect him saying that the Democratic Party has abandoned the working-class families.”

    She’s right, Bernie Sanders has not won, but neither did the liberal technocrats. American voters don’t want social democracy, but they don’t want liberal technocracy, either. They want populism, or at least the appearance of populism. She can piss and moan all she wants, but it doesn’t change the fact that liberalism/neoliberalism is not popular, at least not popular enough.

    The liberals will do what they always do: blame the American people. They love America, at least technically. They love the theory of America, the concept of America, the mechanisms, but they hate Americans. They can’t stand the troglodytic unwashed, uncouth, irreverent, ignorant masses.

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      Sanders is a populist, though – frankly, a much more genuine one than Trump. Populism isn’t always right-wing, nor is it always demagoguery.

      Sanders’ problem is that (again, being an actual populist instead of a fake one), his platform is very unprofitable for the corporate elite, including the media, and so they sabotage and character-assassinate him in every way they can.

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        Sanders is a populist, though

        That’s true, but he’s not the right kind of populist for America.

        I remember going to a Bernie rally in Salt Lake City in 2016, during the Democratic primaries. The line to get into the rally was so long it took us an hour and to get in. He got a lot of people excited, and I was one of them. To this day it was the only political rally I’ve ever been to.

        But as popular as Bernie was, and still is, among a certain segment of America, he is equally hated and despised by other segments. Trump is the (faux) populist America chose. It’s because he’s an unapologetic capitalist. Americans would never vote for a socialist, even a populist one.

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      The liberals will do what they always do: blame the American people. They love America, at least technically. They love the theory of America, the concept of America, the mechanisms, but they hate Americans. They can’t stand the troglodytic unwashed, uncouth, irreverent, ignorant masses.

      I think it’s more accurate to say that they love American profits, personally.

      If they loved America or the American people they would have done more than the bare minimum for the middle and lower classes over the last 25y.

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    Harris spent like the last 6 weeks of the campaign slowly losing ground and Trump spent it slowly gaining. It’s just as likely Harris would have lost by more if she’d had more time.

    Like it or not, the more time Harris spent doing interviews and getting out on the campaign trail, the less people liked her.

    A primary might have helped insofar as she would have lost it like last time.

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    DNC ran right wing wedge issues, not trusted on economy. A vote for Trump gets a new try at the economy and the wedge issues for a moderate. like it seems pretty fucking obvious to me but maybe I’m just some peon sycophant I dunno.

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    Nancy Pelosi also said that we have enough votes to take the house.

    I’ll consider listening to her again if and only if Hakeem Jeffries is Speaker.