Summary
Starting Nov. 10, Amtrak will launch the “Floridian” line, a new daily service from Chicago to Miami.
The route merges Amtrak’s Capitol Limited and Silver Star lines due to ongoing repairs on the East River tunnel damaged by Superstorm Sandy.
The journey spans nearly 48 hours, with stops in Cleveland, Washington D.C., Orlando, and Tampa.
Coach tickets start at just over $100, while private rooms with added amenities like dining car meals, turndown service, and showers begin at $700. Café snacks and a dining car with various meal options are available.
It will never happen now, but I always had a romantic idea of going across America by train, New York to Los Angeles.
Oh well, I guess maybe one day I can do London to Athens…
You can do new York to San Francisco, LA is overrated anyway.
I lived there for a decade and quite enjoyed it, but I won’t be doing any of it because I’m getting the fuck out of this country before it’s too late.
The trip on the Floridian will take nearly 48 hours to complete, according to Amtrak.
Coach seats start at just over $100 for the trip, with private rooms available starting at $700.
Who is their target market?
The market is people wanting a vacation experience of being on a train.
The Amish.
In case people think you are joking, I want to clarify that you are not joking. Amish, and similar groups like some Mennonites, absolutely vacation by train
Correct. And they absolutely vacation in Florida.
And they don’t seem to wear sunscreen
I guess… I am the target market… I take Amtrak from Savannah, GA to Washington DC (about 12 hours) to visit family at least once a year. This new route is basically the same service, but instead of terminating in NYC, it now goes to Chicago (two other trains still follow the route up to NYC). It’s much more comfortable than the bus and way cheaper than flying; it’s usually about $100-120 for a coach seat round trip. Now that I can get a one seat ride all the way to Chicago, because I’ve never been, right now I’m planning a trip there next spring once I get my tax return.
Hercule Poirot?
It should take seven hours.
Fucking hell America.
You wouldn’t need all the fancy amenities if it actually ran at an acceptable speed.
I was looking into visiting a friend in Cleveland from Philadelphia. Basically, it’s a straight shot West with hardly anything between. 6 hour drive, but I prefer the train when possible. 16 hours of travel time by train. Our system is so screwed.
I know that the lines are owned by freight companies, so they have the right of way. It’s just so frustrating to know that the infrastructure was there 100 years ago, but today, it is crippled by private interests and greed.
Amtrak actually legally has right of way over freight, it’s just that the freight companies break the law, and no one does anything about it. https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/projects/dotcom/english/public/documents/corporate/HostRailroadReports/mythbusters-enforcing-amtraks-legal-right-to-preference.pdf
TIL. Wow, that is even more aggravating.
if it actually ran at an acceptable speed.
So, a train service between Chicago and Miami via Washington DC (as Amtrak’s Floridian will take) is just about 1700 miles (about 2700 km). It would take a train traveling at about 235 mph (378 kph) to meet that seven hour target with zero stops along the way. There’s maybe five train services in the world that even get close to that operational speed and they all travel between cities that are like 250 miles (about 400 km) apart.
Do we need high speed rail in the USA? Yes, absolutely. Is a high speed rail route between Miami and Chicago viable? No, not really. (Edit: my phone keeps auto correcting “it” and “is” to “it’s”)
Ah, I was using a distance measure from Chicago to Miami by road and figuring it’d be approximately correct. I forgot to account for the detour to DC. If that’s the distance than a bit over nine hours would be more accurate.
I’m using 300 kmph as a speed average just to give a bit of error for weird slow downs - in France the average top traveling speed for trains is 320 kmph
Also, not for nothing, long distance sleeper trains are actually making a comeback in Europe and Asia… so maybe we’re actually ahead of the curve on this one.
Seven hours is still way worse than flying though.
Honestly? Not really.
A thirty minute flight takes about two and a half hours. Kayak says that’s a three hour twenty minute flight so you end up shaving off an hour twenty flying vs. high speed rail… and that’s ignoring costs like the annoyance of having your person scanned and tracked in an airport and having arbitrary limits and costs associated with your luggage. Also, losing luggage sucks balls - and you’re never going to lose luggage on a train unless you’re robbed. Add on that in a train the seats are designed for comfort along with (thank the fucking lord) the bathrooms.
I’ll take high speed rail over a US flight any day of the week.
It’s funny because in Europe the math is actually more in favor of flights because security theater is minimal and budget airlines are extremely competitive… still airlines cannot compete on comfort.
