• 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    People likely voted for not repealing the provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime and not for keeping slavery.

    Whoever thought combining those two things in one vote was a good idea is an idiot

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          15 days ago

          You must be either young and ignorant or don’t know how crime is set up here in America.

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              14 days ago

              In the several states where it is a crime to be homeless. Such as the 24 states with laws restricting “loitering” in public spaces. Or the 16 states that do the same, but in all spaces. Or the 15 states where pitching a tent in public locations is illegal. Or the 4 states that do that, but in all spaces. Or the 6 states where sleeping or lying down in public is illegal. Or the 4 states where it is illegal to sleep in a vehicle.

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          Nah, slavery is still slavery. Tons of US businesses are currently propped up by prisoner workers who they don’t have to pay practically anything, and who can’t walk off the job, and who can’t really complain too much, AND, conveniently, aren’t employed by that company so they can bypass labor laws like break times, safety regulations, and working hours.

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          It’s slavery as punishment. Which is still slavery.

          It can be avoided by not committing crimes.

          In a justice system functioning perfectly? Sure! In the US one, on the other hand…

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          15 days ago

          You should read literally anything about the US prison industry, mass incarceration, or war on drugs. The fact that America has the world’s largest prison population, that companies make money from this, and that the people who get imprisoned are largely non-white couldn’t possibly be related right?

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          15 days ago

          Let me know if you change your position on that if you’re ever convicted and sentenced to prison for a crime you did not commit.

          Maybe we should be treating people humanely regardless of their criminal record? They are in prison to become reformed citizens, not to be our slave laborers.

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              15 days ago

              Teach you how forcing someone to do labor and be treated like a financial asset is slavery?

              Well that’s easy. You open up your English textbook, you look up the word slavery, and you look at the definition.

              Here, I’ll do the work for you:

              “plural noun: slaves 1. a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person.”

              Or do you mean, how is this situation slavery? It’s also pretty simple. The American prison system is for-profit. The government is incentivized to arrest more people because they have minimum quotas to meet when putting people in prison. Otherwise they pay extra on the contracts. The prison employees are considered assets in this situation. And those prison employees are put to work with no or little pay.

              But I do understand. English is a very complicated language and the intricacies of the US prison system are not well known in other countries, I imagine. Thank you for asking for help.

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      15 days ago

      You can be enslaved in the US for the crime of not having enough money to afford a place to live.

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          15 days ago

          Maybe it’d be a good idea to familiarize yourself with the problems in the US before making sweeping statements about them, in that case.