Barring something extreme, probably so. There might be legal challenges available but it does not look like Pennsylvania was close enough to possibly flip.
I’m expecting that to happen, from his own camp. It’d be a perfect excuse to pull another Patriot Act and turn the screws just a bit more, pushing the nation further into an authoritarian police state.
That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.
That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.
Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.
If you completely ignore how the electoral system works, sure. Back in reality, we have elections which, largely due to voter disenfranchisement efforts, only at best only account for ~60% of the country, only about half of which go to the fascists. So less than a 1/3rd of the country, and even that comes with the caveat that their other option sucks too.
They only get power because the system is set up to favor them and the state needs to use violence to enforce the will of that minority on everyone else. We have the numbers to change things for the better, we just lack the organization to make that happen because of a century of efforts to violently repress those organizations and socially isolate people.
So you can keep being a misanthrope by pretending most of the people aren’t worth saving or you can recognize your fellow humans and work with them to do something about it.
It will take significantly more pain for the fat and comfortable imperial core that is the continental US to be open to such things. Incidentally, it’s that exact pain Trump appears eager to inflict. So we’ll have to wait and see.
Not if we decide to not let it happen.
Bit late for that is it not?
Barring something extreme, probably so. There might be legal challenges available but it does not look like Pennsylvania was close enough to possibly flip.
Mans might be implying something a bit more kinetic, nahmean?
About 3 or 4 inches to the right, I think is what’s being implied here.
I’m expecting that to happen, from his own camp. It’d be a perfect excuse to pull another Patriot Act and turn the screws just a bit more, pushing the nation further into an authoritarian police state.
This is definitively the president that the country has chosen. What’s there to not let happen?
Well, Biden could legally have him killed by seal team six.
I’m not advocating for anything, just pointing out what trumps lawyer successfully argued.
That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.
The problem is there are only two candidates to choose from.
That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.
Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.
Doesn’t look like that from where I’m standing.
If you completely ignore how the electoral system works, sure. Back in reality, we have elections which, largely due to voter disenfranchisement efforts, only at best only account for ~60% of the country, only about half of which go to the fascists. So less than a 1/3rd of the country, and even that comes with the caveat that their other option sucks too.
They only get power because the system is set up to favor them and the state needs to use violence to enforce the will of that minority on everyone else. We have the numbers to change things for the better, we just lack the organization to make that happen because of a century of efforts to violently repress those organizations and socially isolate people.
So you can keep being a misanthrope by pretending most of the people aren’t worth saving or you can recognize your fellow humans and work with them to do something about it.
Well considering the seal that killed bin Laden is a loud Trump supporter, their probably just turn around and kill Biden
It will take significantly more pain for the fat and comfortable imperial core that is the continental US to be open to such things. Incidentally, it’s that exact pain Trump appears eager to inflict. So we’ll have to wait and see.