• TriflingToad@lemmy.world
    10·
    20 days ago

    how do people in the US think Muslim folk make up 22% of the population!? My guess was like 4-5% and I still overshot by a lot.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    6·
    20 days ago

    These polls tend to fumble their own methods, by trusting people to read definitions. They should be asking directly: how many people in your country were born in another country? The word “immigrant” literally means that… but that’s not the only meaning people envision, when they hear that word. To some extent you are always measuring that disconnect.

    On the other hand, what fucking lunatics think 22% of America is Muslim?

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      7·
      20 days ago

      You’d need an awful lot of people to bump that 19% up to “40-50%” and I’m fairly sure that if I went to Germany right now, and we’re on perception alone so it’s gunna be pretty racist, I wouldn’t see one person of colour for every white person.

      I live in an international city and it’s still mostly white people here despite seeing many definite immigrants all the time. They just stand out against what I was conditioned to believe is “normal” but that’s it.

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        31·
        20 days ago

        I think they’re saying that children who are born in the new country should be counted as foreigners. Which is kinda fucked up but yea I don’t think they’re saying that children moving to a new country aren’t counted.

  • otp@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    20 days ago

    I think the issue is that most people live in cities, where populations tend to me more diverse. Then most polls probably also end up disproportionately asking cityfolk. So the polls ask people who live in areas with disproportionate numbers of immigrants (relative to non-urban parts of the country), and they forget how many non-immigrants are outside the cities.

  • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
    44·
    20 days ago

    Apart from a couple of countries, the percentages are small. The graph is distorted as it’s not showing the full 100%

    Looks like most people, in most countries, are pretty close to accurate.

    • uberstar@lemmy.mlOP
      4·
      20 days ago

      Alternative view (directly from the source):

      IMO being off by around 10% or more is still quite the leap.

    • infectoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      20 days ago

      Yeah as much as I love to call people out for their racist bullshit, the results are surprisingly close to the mark. I was expecting the gap to be much wider. At least for the English speaking countries.

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
    11·
    20 days ago

    This does not count Ukrainians for Poland though, even for 2022 before war there were much more of them than 2%, possibly as many as 3 million and that went up in years included here.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
        2·
        19 days ago

        That’s different question though on the census, about nationality of Polish citizens. Most of numbers of minorities with citizenship in Poland are Polish minorities who were born in Poland. Like Silesians who are not even officially considered minority and still half million of them wrote that in (in reality there’s at probably around a million of them since once the census bureau included them despite government not wanted to admit them at all). And even let’s say Polish Germans, Belorussians and Ukrainians (at least those 80000 mentioned in this census) are also living here for generations due to how frequently borders changed in last two centuries.

        Polish state is also relentlessly engaging in polonisation of minorities since 1918.