Shoutout to our hard-working maintainers, first of all.

Wanted to open a space for the community to discuss this aspect of marketing/identity.

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    • Marafon@sh.itjust.works
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      22 days ago

      Same here. If people don’t like it, fuckem 🤷‍♂️. I’ll find it all the funnier because of it.

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        21 days ago

        Yeah, but at the end of the day we either want Lemmy to grow, or we don’t. And if we make it difficult or awkward for people to use Lemmy, then we’re shooting ourselves in the foot if our goal is to grow Lemmy’s user base.

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          this is just my opinion but taking away personality to appeal to a wider audience is one of the worst things modern megacorps do, the strength of the fediverse is the power it gives to individuals and communities over corporations with money, and so personality is one of the things the fediverse needs to maintain to succeed

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    22 days ago

    If people can’t handle the word shit, they probably shouldn’t be looking at shit on Lemmy. Lmao

  • I Iike both slrpnk and blahaj but it’s not like their domain names are magically not also part of this alphabet soup they’re talking about.
    It’s… kinda the point of federation and decentralization.
    Sure, Reddit or Facebook have brand recognition, they’re also centralized corpo garbage.

    If a blahaj user wants to share a SJW post, but finds the sjw domain untasteful, they can also just share their instance’s URL for said post.

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      22 days ago

      I started on lemmy.ml because I thought it was “the default one” to some extent. Learned that was a mistake pretty fast. Glad I found this one.

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        22 days ago

        I think the same thing is why lemmy.world is as big as it is. “Well that must be the default one, it says lemmy and it’s for the whole world.”

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          It’s very inviting! Unless you want to say anything bad about anybody for any reason.

          Can’t imagine that’ll come up.

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          I may be remembering it wrong, but I think world was one of the few accepting people without a referral during the reddit migration. That’s why I use .world. I also don’t really understand federation besides it means I can see other instances, but I only barely know what that means. There were a lot of “what is the fediverse” posts when I first joined, and they were helpful, but maybe too simplified?

          I also remember thinking .world and .ml were the defaults when I started.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      21 days ago

      This comment would be more relevant a year down the line if perspectives shifted and users begged for sanitization, but:

      Is it technically challenging or financially costly or otherwise problematic to mirror content to another subdomain, or domain mask or something? I thought of this after seeing oldsh.itjust.works:

      
      try.itjust.works
      
      leg.itjust.works
      
      share.itjust.works
      
      subm.itjust.works
      
      

      (2 & 4 don’t work as well as the current split word)

      No reply requested unless it seems like it would be fun/interesting to type one

      • I’m not an expert on the specific of this, but changing the domain for the UI (as in oldsh.itjust.works) seems a lot easier than changing the domain for the backend, which includes federation with all other instances.
        I don’t know of any way to change the federated stuff without breaking pretty much everything and starting over.
        Maybe there is and I just don’t know about it, or maybe there could be an easier way at some point.

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    I’m sympathetic… I’m not sure I’d be willing to share a sh.itjust.works link to my company #general slack channel.

    Though that is far from the biggest problem Lemmy has for adoption. Many communities are simply flooded with 15yr old tankies.

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    21 days ago

    What’s the polite way to call someone a lil bitch. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil bitch ass

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      What’s the polite way to call someone a lil bitch. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil bitch ass

      I believe that the most socially acceptable way would be (and remember that it’s an example, and not directed at you):

      “fuck you, and your lil bitch ass attitude. You don’t know your father because he never even liked you, your mother blows strangers for bags of gummy bears and validation, and your ears look weird”

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    Chose the instance because of it being the first one that I found that wasn’t overwhelmed by new sign-ups of refugees from the sub place. Stay because of the name.

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    “oh no, swear words! can’t share this now!”

    this sounds like a personal problem, sorry Ned Flanders!

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    21 days ago

    “I can’t link this, it doesn’t fit within my corporate values!”

    Yeah that’s why I’m here. The name makes this place much more difficult for corpo scum to infest it.

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      A lot of people have uneducated opinions on gtlds, but as a professional DNS engineer: fuck gtlds. They’re literally corporate cash grabs that make my work much, much harder and actively make the Internet worse.

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        Thanks for proving my point lol how do gtlds make your work much, much harder??

        actively worse

        😂😂😂

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          how do gtlds make your work much, much harder??

          Since you’ve shown vague interest in my field, allow me to elaborate!

          gtlds add a ton of complexity to managing DNS. Every new gtld means more configurations to deal with, which makes things way more prone to errors. On top of that, they make monitoring and security tougher since we have to constantly watch for threats from an ever-growing list of domains—more phishing, more typosquatting, more headaches. It’s also a pain when systems don’t play nice with certain gtlds, leading to random bugs or outages we have to troubleshoot. And let’s not forget the user confusion. People are used to .com or .org, so we end up fielding extra support requests, trying to explain what these domains even are which means I have to explain repeatedly to executives to NOT use some gimmicky gtld for their new site. When users are upset because “thewebsiteimanage.hot” is a porn site, thats a huge problem. Defensive domains are a nightmare and get worse every time a new gltd is created.

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            That’s a lot of hats for one person to wear, no wonder you’re having so much trouble managing your configuration. Sounds like it’d be easier to have a single registry with an open top dot and delegate all that management.

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              Hm, so to explain the problem better: I work for a large organization that has many sites. Part of that is managing all the names. We have over 500 domains and 75% of them are defensive domains. For example, if I have companysite.com then I also must have companysite.net and .org and .co and so on and so forth. They all redirect to companysite.com

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                I wonder if companysite. would be more expensive than a portfolio. There’s value in identity trust and countless ways to do that but the Internet gravitated to squirreling away domain names.

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                  So, if you want to be a registrar, it is a considerable responsibility, cost, and effort. It also doesn’t solve the original problem. Users will still go to companysite.com because that’s what they think it is. Trying to tell users to go to companysite. would be damn near impossible without giving a quick DNS 101 lesson. Also, your SEO would be fuuucked. Good luck selling that to any exec. As for your concern with the Internet choosing to go with delegating domains, it’s actually critical to how we run DNS. Imagine if every single lookup had to contact the root servers. Every single email. Every single ping. Icann would have to be the size of Google. This also means that requirements for being a tld would be significantly reduced which would greatly compromise the Internet if any of them went rogue.