As a beginner I mainly focused on Cinnamon, XFCE and GNOME but want to try out a windowing DE on a VM to get a feel for things.

What window manager DE would you recommend to a first timer that doesn’t use tiling DEs?

There seems to be pretty popular ones like i3 and hyprland.

I was also hoping if some wm’s still have a task bar as I am comfortable using that to keep a traditional style as I come from a long line use of Windows as well (starting from the XP era)

Thank you if you have any recommendations, it is good to branch your horizons a bit!

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 months ago

    Do you know what your problem is?

    I’m not asking in a rhetorical way, I actually mean: what is the problem you are trying to solve?

    If any DE you’ve tried works just fine, then just stay with it. There is no point in trying to get in with a specific clique here. Just use whatever works for you. If you find a specific need for something, THEN start looking around.

  • nyan@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    3 months ago

    Some individual window managers are full-featured enough to be somewhat usable as program launchers all by their lonesome, such as awesome, fluxbox, and openbox. There’s also Enlightenment, which is somewhere between a bare WM and a DE. If you really want to play with standalone WMs, start with something from this paragraph.

    Other WMs need a bunch of other things like dmenu and feh piled on top of them to get a useful environment. i3 is one of these. You can find and fit together enough software pieces to get a fairly full-featured environment out of one of these setups, but it’s more work than just installing the core portions of a DE.

    Figure out first whether you’re dealing with X or wayland (hyprland is a wayland compositor, which is slightly different from a window manager). Read guides, and especiallly stay away from things that say they’re “lightweight” or “minimalist” until you’ve read the documentation and know exactly what you’re getting into, as they tend to be for advanced users. If you just want to play around and have no particular problem you’re trying to solve, just look for live CD/DVD/USB images you can boot inside a VM and save yourself some work.

  • gramgan@lemmy.ml
    2·
    3 months ago

    i3 and xfce can be combined to achieve a very practical result. Highly recommend. It’s trivial to setup on NixOS, at least.

  • verdigris@lemmy.ml
    11·
    3 months ago

    An actual WM is not a DE, and if you use something like i3 (sway is the Wayland version) all it does is manage your windows. A DE includes a WM; GNOME’s is called gdm Mutter. If you install a WM yourself, that’s all you get. Docks, bars, etc. might have suggested or sibling implementations for a given WM, but you’ll be setting them up yourself and you can easily swap in other options, or just not have them. There’s also no included software suite with things like a file manager. You’re expected to pick and use whatever tools you like, which is exactly the appeal but can be intimidating if you’re used to a full fledged DE.

    Tiling is just a way of organizing your windows, as opposed to the more common “floating” scheme that all the major desktop UIs use. You can totally use tiling in a DE, you just need an extension for it. I know they exist for GNOME and I’m sure there’s a way to do it on kde too. Even Windows has tiling modes available.

    So you can probably just enable tiling on your current setup to try it out (or install GNOME on your VM --i know that PopOS! used to have a built in tiling mode, but it’s been years since I tried that so ymmv). Moving to a WM instead of a DE is a very different and more involved process that’s mostly for people who want a totally custom setup with no extraneous features that they don’t explicitly set up. It’s basically the UI side of doing an LFS or classic Arch install where you pick which system components to use by hand.