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usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml to politics @lemmy.world ·
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Trump judge releases 1,889 pages of election interference evidence against the former president

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Trump judge releases 1,889 pages of election interference evidence against the former president

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Trump judge's latest release of Jan. 6. evidence was heavily redacted. Here's what was included.
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The unsealing of the documents comes after Donald Trump failed in a final attempt to delay the release until after the presidential election.

I assume the story itself will be updated as they go through those thousands of pages

See the documents below

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    The courts have at least 1,889 pages of evidence of election interference, and yet they will still leave him on the ballots for the highest office in the country.

    This right here is the very definition of lip service when it comes to justice. It’s time for America to nut up or shut up. Either way, I’m damned tired of this bullshit.

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      Due process exists for both the innocent and the worst out there. You want that to be there to protect you and everyone else.

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        He went through due process and was adjudicated unfit by the Supreme Court of Colorado to be on the ballot in Colorado because insurrectionists are bannned. The Supreme Court of the Republican Party Bigfooted it and said he had to be on the ballot anyway

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          These are different situations. And even though the SCOTUS is filled with idiots, due process did occur there.

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            Calling them idiots is giving them a pass. They know exactly what they’re doing, they’re just evil.

          • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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            So we agree

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    Real question here is will this be enough to move the news cycle.

    I don’t think his voters care.

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      cant reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into

      thanks for the correction

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        I think you mean “can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into”.

        But yes.

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          yes thank you

    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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      I think there’s a chance swaying a little more people than we might think - even if it’s a small percentage overall that can be swayed

      Look for instances at the audience reactions to his lies about January 6th at his Univision Townhall. They show visable disgust

      https://xcancel.com/MeidasTouch/status/1846746612980199817

      Even if it’s not enough to make them vote the opposite way, it might be enough to make them not show up to vote against harris. Turnout changes in single digit percentages matters a lot

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        I mean thats just not what the data we have is saying.

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          Note that polling doesn’t capture turnout data rather well. It has to make assumptions about turnout for weighting

          The closets metric polls have to try to guesstimate turnout is enthusiasm, which is down ~15% for trump compared to 2020. In 2020, there was a enthusiasm gap in Trump’s favor. This year that’s flipped

          Or if we look at say a subgroup like Niki Haley primary voters (~5-10% of republicans), there’s a marked drop in their support for Trump this year compared to 2020

          The majority of them, 59%, said they voted for Trump in 2020. But now, only 45% plan to cast their ballots for him again in 2024, marking a 14-point difference.

          https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article293768789.html#storylink=cpy

          Overall, this will probably look like small movments if it materializes, but in elections won on close margins this absolutely matters

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            I agree thats prob the best proxy. I don’t know that we’ll get any exit polling data from GA or NC yet, but the turnout numbers hopefully look good good for Harris. She needs wide margins to keep this out of the SC.

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      deleted by creator

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      Correct, when “facts” come from TD they matter; otherwise your”facts” are safe to ignore

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      I’d imagine there’s still quite a lot of undecided voters out there. This might move them.

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    Can someone make a supercut of all the far-right dumbasses saying we cannot have a president who is under investigation? Might have to go back to 2016 to get clips, I don’t think they say that any longer.

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      Hell, go back to the nineties when they were ready to hang Bill Clinton for having sex.

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        Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex. He was impeached for committing perjury while testifying as the defendant in a sexual harassment inquiry. The blowjob is just the thing he was lying about when he perjured himself. If he’d been convicted maybe it would be easier to hold presidents accountable today.

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          The comment you’re replying to said nothing about impeachment.

          Learn to read.

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            Be nice

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    His followers will only support him more. They like that he is above the law.

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      You’re not wrong.

      A lot of them seem to be super dodgy too legally

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        Every accusation yadda yadda. It’s all so tired at this point.

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    Just lock him up. The man has been on pounds of cocaine. If he had a tiny bit of weed, he would have been in prison already.

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    One-thousand eight hundred eighty nine pages. One-thousand eight hundred eighty nine (I’m not going to parody the rest of the song this is a lot)

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    This is like 1,800 blank/redacted pages.

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      Why the downvotes? Look at it.

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    He won’t be doing the same again, right?

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      Well if he does, we can all take comfort our justice system will prosecute him at their nearest convenience.

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    not that it matters much after all thats come out and did nothing.

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    If this is the case, how in the fuck is the Orange Turd still on the ballot? The bastard will repeat the BS, but with more violence.

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    Would love to see him release his medical records or tax returns

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-judge-release-additional-evidence-election-interference-case-2024-10

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