I’m so frickin enraged rn, I can’t fucking handle it. The whole Lemmy is advocating voting Dems while knowing that they will commit a ton of warcrimes. While on the opposite side, russians who voted against Putin, tried different strategies and failed, treated as subhumans and the people that commit warcrimes. Fucking hate y’all
To me, at least, it seems like they were fired not as a punishment for Russia’s war crimes but because their Russian citizenship made them compromised - at least in the eyes of their employer. But for the sake of the argument I’m willing to go with your interpretation.
The article doesn’t say who these Russian employees voted for. And it doesn’t matter - I doubt ABBYY knew how each of them voted when deciding to fire them. The question of whether or not they were held accountable had nothing to do with how they voted - only with what Russia ended up doing and with the fact they had a Russian citizenship.
Not voting for Putin, even voting against him, did not help the employees that did so to avoid being fired. The only thing that would have done that was if Russia didn’t invade Ukraine (which would have also had the nice little bonus of not having about a million casualties and not making the lives of many times that number a living hell. But we don’t care about such trivialities. We only care about the virtue that gets signaled)
But no vote they’d have cast could change that. Because Russia is a one-party system - Putin gets elected no matter what.
The USA is a two-party system. Either the Democrats get elected, or the Republicans. A third option is not more realistic than someone defeating Putin in the Russian elections. An American voter that cares about being associated with war crimes (I’m not even talking about whether the war crimes will happen or not. Nobody cares about that - only about being liable to them) can not take comfort in voting for a losing candidate that did not contribute to any war crimes (and never had the chance to). They’ll still be associated with these war crimes simply for being American, just like these Russians are being associated with Putin’s action simply for being Russian.
If war crimes are the main issue you care about in these elections, then the only scenario when you should not vote Democrat is if you think the Republicans are going to do better on that front.
So… do you think Trump, if elected, will commit less war crimes, or less horrible war crimes, than Harris?
Guess who will also commit war crimes? Conservatives. Guess who gets into office if too many people vote third party? Conservatives. Third party literally has 0 chance of winning this election. And if conservatives win, third party may very well never win any election ever. So you shouldn’t be voting for the change you want right now, you should be voting for the right to vote for the change you want to see tomorrow. It’s pretty simple.
I’m so frickin enraged rn, I can’t fucking handle it. The whole Lemmy is advocating voting Dems while knowing that they will commit a ton of warcrimes. While on the opposite side, russians who voted against Putin, tried different strategies and failed, treated as subhumans and the people that commit warcrimes. Fucking hate y’all
Can you elaborate on these Russians? Are you referring to the ones that got conscripted to invade Ukraine?
No. The only problem with conscripted folks is torture, and it’s not as widespread as torture of Ukrainian combatants.
I mean events like this.
To me, at least, it seems like they were fired not as a punishment for Russia’s war crimes but because their Russian citizenship made them compromised - at least in the eyes of their employer. But for the sake of the argument I’m willing to go with your interpretation.
The article doesn’t say who these Russian employees voted for. And it doesn’t matter - I doubt ABBYY knew how each of them voted when deciding to fire them. The question of whether or not they were held accountable had nothing to do with how they voted - only with what Russia ended up doing and with the fact they had a Russian citizenship.
Not voting for Putin, even voting against him, did not help the employees that did so to avoid being fired. The only thing that would have done that was if Russia didn’t invade Ukraine (which would have also had the nice little bonus of not having about a million casualties and not making the lives of many times that number a living hell. But we don’t care about such trivialities. We only care about the virtue that gets signaled)
But no vote they’d have cast could change that. Because Russia is a one-party system - Putin gets elected no matter what.
The USA is a two-party system. Either the Democrats get elected, or the Republicans. A third option is not more realistic than someone defeating Putin in the Russian elections. An American voter that cares about being associated with war crimes (I’m not even talking about whether the war crimes will happen or not. Nobody cares about that - only about being liable to them) can not take comfort in voting for a losing candidate that did not contribute to any war crimes (and never had the chance to). They’ll still be associated with these war crimes simply for being American, just like these Russians are being associated with Putin’s action simply for being Russian.
If war crimes are the main issue you care about in these elections, then the only scenario when you should not vote Democrat is if you think the Republicans are going to do better on that front.
So… do you think Trump, if elected, will commit less war crimes, or less horrible war crimes, than Harris?
More. But that’s not the point
The point is not to reduce the amount of war crimes? Right. I forgot. The point is to signal as much virtue as possible.
The point is to shut the fuck up about the US politics. You are electing one evil over another
Guess who will also commit war crimes? Conservatives. Guess who gets into office if too many people vote third party? Conservatives. Third party literally has 0 chance of winning this election. And if conservatives win, third party may very well never win any election ever. So you shouldn’t be voting for the change you want right now, you should be voting for the right to vote for the change you want to see tomorrow. It’s pretty simple.
Kamala can change her support for genocide or she can lose. If she chooses to lose thats 100% on her.
Who cares about war crimes. We gotta stop Trump!!
Trump should’ve been jailed
Ok?