More than 1.4 million have already voted in the presidential election, as battleground state polls show no clear frontrunner

More than 1.4 million people have now voted in the presidential election, as Kamala Harris and Donald Trump continue to crisscross the country in the final stretch of a neck-and-neck campaign.

Their vice-presidential picks, JD Vance and Tim Walz, also faced off this week in the only vice-presidential debate of this cycle. But initial polls suggested voters saw the debate as a draw, without clear impact on the race.

Harris earned her highest national polling average since July, though the presidential race remains extremely close in battleground states, according to the Guardian’s poll tracker. Harris is leading in five of seven swing states, according to the Guardian’s average of high-quality state polls aggregated by the polling analysis platform 538 over the last 10 days. But overall, both candidates continue to have about even odds of winning.

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  • MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world
    642·
    2 months ago

    Testament to Plato’s opinion about democracy and how the masses are incapable of governing themselves as they vote with emotion rather than reason.

    Trump WILL end democracy in America.

    …and they’ll vote him in anyway.

    End of story.

    Ask me again why I hate people?

    • qprimed@lemmy.mlEnglish
      481·
      2 months ago

      hey, I upvoted because I feel you on this, but please don’t ignore the impact of concentrated wealth on society. people have felt removed from us politics for decades. this is by design and results in the usual political grift becoming social poison as politicians from all sides mainline that money speedball. no, both “sides” are not the same, but the differences are far too minimal be be called healthy.

      and, yes… people can be selfish, ignorant and prejudiced, but the worst of what we are has been weaponized against us since the first proto human claimed divine inspiration - and yet we persist still.

      the 1/10 of 1% believe they can own us all in the end and, whether right or wrong, I want to define who the real monster is here - and its usually not the collective “we” in this potential game over moment.

    • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      2 months ago

      They didn’t even wait for a capable and genuinely talented leader to give up all control over the government to…

      They just hand it to the first stupid clown who realizes he can just completely bullshit his way into office and ignore whatever rules he doesn’t like.

      • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        2 months ago

        Their plan basically got activated early, that’s all. They had been trying to erode the structure of positive civic engagement since Newt Gingrich, and had been steadily developing this base of angry people for a couple decades. But before they quite got a majority together, this random asshole from reality tv shows up and hijacks the whole thing.

        If you think back to the 2016 gop primary, though, they all really hated the guy. But once he had co-opted their movement and installed himself on top with a huge rebranding, they didn’t really have a choice but to go along with it. The ratio of Never Trumpers like Liz Cheney to converted MAGAs like Vance is basically an indicator of the percentage that were willing to sell most of their values for this shot at seizing power. About 80% or so.

        Only with about 50-75% of the gop base though, depending on region, that was the result of the plan hatching prematurely.

  • NineMileTower@lemmy.world
    19·
    2 months ago

    The Guardian’s tracker is based on an average of high quality polls over the last 10 days compiled by 538. As of Friday, the forecasting site said the race was essentially a toss-up, with Harris having a 55% chance of winning and Trump having a 45% chance.

    Huh?

    Also, I’m a firm believer that liberals don’t answer phone calls from numbers they don’t know and conservatives are the type to send money to Indian call center scammers just because they called.

    • rayyy@lemmy.world
      6·
      2 months ago

      liberals don’t answer phone calls from numbers they don’t know

      Conservatives don’t signal when they are going to vote against their candidate.

      • TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Asking pollsters to be mind readers is a bit much, in my book. Besides. How can we count on Conservatives not voting for Trump? In that polling place, with hopes for more Conservative judges, fewer abortions, and more ‘Real America’, the cagey Conservative can vote for the evil without having to own that vote. I’ve met plenty of Conservatives who say, “I don’t like the guy personally, but I do like my 6-3 court, and Liberals want to take that away from me.”

        If they vote for us, great! That’ll make a marginal victory into a landslide victory, and might push a marginal loss into a solid victory. But we can’t count on them. We need to do the work to make sure we get past that 50%+1 margin in at least 270 EVs worth of states and not count on other people to do it. I don’t want to wake up Wednesday morning and see that Stein got more votes in the state that we needed to get to 270 than Trump won that state by…

    • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      They do use weights and adjustments to deal with this. I don’t know about US polling but in the UK there is a shy conservative factor. People don’t like to say or admit they are conservative, so the polls factor this in. They also factor who answers and responds and try to correct for it.

  • rayyy@lemmy.world
    121·
    2 months ago

    He lost in 2020 ant there are a lot more Republicans who are going to vote for Kamala Harris this time.

    • TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 months ago

      The message here is that you shouldn’t count on any of that. Polling has its issues, for sure, and there may very well be a huge win for Harris in unexpected places as Republican voters cross the aisle to deny Trump a seat. Or it may all be a mirage and we’re back to leftie voters switching to Third Parties or staying home in enough numbers to give Trump the win. The only way to be sure that we win and Project 2025 and Trump are denied are to turn out as if we’re 1% down in the polls. Vote like your vote is the +1 in the 50%+1 that determines who will win. Vote as if every single Republican was going to turn out for Trump and his awful policies. And if you honestly think that we’ve got this in the bag, vote so that the numbers are crazy. Vote so you can get the landslide.

      None of the polls matter except the one that concludes next month, that your State will run. Never forget that.