David Duke, former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, frequently posts videos on a website called Odysee. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones also streams his podcast, “The Alex Jones Show,” on the site. It works a lot like YouTube and attracts millions of views each month.

Anti-hate groups say the site is a hotbed of extremism where users from around the world — including promoters of U.S.-designated terrorist group the Nordic Resistance Movement, Holocaust deniers and Proud Boys supporters — use Odysee’s data storage and financial features to spread their views and raise money. Users also take advantage of the forum’s near complete lack of content moderation. The site’s CEO said he’s dedicated to keeping the company “censorship resistant.”

The site also comes with strong New England ties. Odysee was created by a now-defunct New Hampshire cryptocurrency company and began with seed money from a downtown Boston-based venture capital firm called Pillar VC, financed by a diverse constellation of local investors.

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    This is kind of a complicated issue. We haven’t figured out federated video yet. Hosting is expensive, and instances are unreliable, search is abysmal. If you happen to already know a creator that uses peer tube, it’s easy enough to follow them, but like a lot of the fetaverse, discoverability is low.

    Odysee bridges that gap between giant, centralized video hosting behemoth Google/YouTube and truly free video hosting.

    There are a lot of creators who have ideological aversion to being hosted on YouTube, Which includes a lot of FOSS and privacy people like Louis Rossmann or Naomi Brockwell. It also means unfortunately that there are some people who leave mainstream services because their ideas are so repugnant, that they get banned.

    Anyway, here are the official community guidelines from their website.

    Content or posts that incite hatred or violence towards a particular group or person(s) based on, but not limited to the following:

    Ethnicity, Disability, Nationality, Race, Gender, Religion, Sexual orientation, Social class/caste, Gender identity/expression

    Content or posts that promote terrorism, criminal activity, or credibly calls for violence (coordinated or otherwise), for example:

    Sincere encouragement of others to go to a particular place to commit/perform violence, or to target groups or individuals with violence

    Promotion of recruitment into terrorist and/or criminal groups

    Sincere promotion of terrorist and/or criminal groups

    Sincere promotion of terrorism and/or criminal activity

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      So the community guidelines aren’t being enforced? I still think that’s a problem. The federated video sites I’ve used (mostly peertube instances, tbh) all have community guidelines, and if they didn’t enforce them, I wouldn’t use the sites.

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      I am no content creator but i do occasionally make videos that i want to share.

      I am therefore not bound to youtube but i can’t use odysee because the recommended videos are clearly racicst. I share a video about goldfish and odysee recommend. Videos about why ‘white is better’ or ‘what i love about Hitlers’… after a talk in the community’s discord i realised that it was not a place for me to be in

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      no peertube instance can handle open registration and last longer than a couple of years.

      even google is having a hard time storing all the video that gets uploaded.

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    Megan Squire, co-author of the report and the center’s deputy director for data analytics,

    “They want a place that’s not going to tell them they’re not allowed to say hateful, terroristic, illegal things,’’ she said. “Odysee plays that role and that’s a problem.”

    If it’s illegal, arrest them. If not, well…

    I mean, my boy Louis Rossmann prefers Odysee so it’s not just a hive of scum and villainy.

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      Rossman could self host his arm chair philosophy. instead they choose to associate with degenerates.

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        By that metric, everyone on Lemmy is guilty by association. It’s federated decentralized so you get the whole range of shitty opinions.

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          yes, exactly.

          they want to use odysee for discoverability because they know who their audience is.

          they would post on Lemmy if we had even more degenerates here.

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            I don’t understand your point. Is Rossmann guilty of associating with criminals because he wants to be discoverable and monetize his content on Odysee?

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              “guilty by association” are your words.

              I am free to judge people by who they associate with and I judge Rossmon for it and tell people that I do.

              In the US, the freedom to associate is accompanied by a freedom to not associate, as protected by the first amendment of the US constitution. Much like I can judge someone by what they say I can also judge someone by who they associate with.

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    Even after growing up with the deeply entrenched racism of rural Georgia, I was shocked at the overt and outspoken racism of Boston and the area around it.

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      Do you have actual examples? I’ve lived here (greater Boston area) for over 10 years now and, having grown up in and around WI, the level of racism here strikes me as virtually non-existent in comparison, and where you do see it (lots of systemic artifacts), there is a constant and loud pressure to address it.

      I’m not saying that Boston doesn’t have issues with racism, at many levels and in many ways, but I hear people claim it’s exceptionally worse than elsewhere in the country and I’m just confused. Had family friends from Chicagoland suburbs try to convince me Chicago has less racism issues than Boston and I just can’t imagine what the fuck happened to their brains to think that.