While election almost certain to be decided by swing states, pollsters explain why growth in national polls is meaningful


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    It only matters in the swing states. The ones where they’re trying to purge the voter registrations, sometimes successfully. The system is broken.

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    We need to win by a lot more than razor thin margins, republicans are going to try and steal this one.

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    Yesterday, I saw a few of donnie’s loyalists standing out on a corner at a place with steady traffic, trying to get cars and pedestrians to honk/give them a thumb’s up. In the hot sun. No idea if they were paid or not. They were way up in years and probably could be doing almost anything else but that. But these people love dimbulb donnie, no matter how much of a disaster he’ll be. The worse off it is for the country, they’ll cheer it on, as long as they believe donnie is going to hurt the right people.

    Just made me look forward to filling out my ballot all the more. But definitely, everyone: go vote. Don’t believe the polls.

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      As a non-american this scares me.

      What the fuck does Trump have to offer to the average citizen? He is basing his campaign on

      • tax cuts for the extra rich
      • iMmIgRaNtS (who Harris wants to stop anyways)
      • licking the ass of Putin and Nethanyau
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        As an American, this scares me.

        I try to share this site when national pole articles come out, because these are the only numbers that matter in our election. It doesn’t matter how blue California is if they rat-fuck the elections in the swing states.

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        Trumps pov is easy to understand, and so he’s easy to buy. You only need to stroke Trumps ego and speak his language and he’s on your side. That’s why Republican politicians think they can control him, except he’s too neurotic and unstable, likely because of narcissism made worse by dementia.

        No one really votes for Republicans, that’s why they have to gerrymander and keep the electoral college alive. There’s like maybe 35%-37% of the American pop. which really supports their pov. The swing states are only ever an issue because of voter disenfranchisement, not because people actually swing. Very few people actually swing vote.

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          The electoral college favors Republicans but the narrative that “no one really votes for Republicans” is fucking bullshit

          Yes, they tend to lose the popular vote but even then % wise, it’s way closer than it should be.

          The way you phrase it, makes it seem like they are a fringe group that through cheating manages to win even if they only have half as many votes as the Democrats.

          They are popular even with, or perhaps actually because of, all of the racism, sexism and fascist tendencies. Do not downplay that.

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            Last time Republicans won the popular vote was because of 9/11, so 2004, but they always lost otherwise since 1988. The racism and sexism are open wounds from the civil rights movement in the 60s and the women libs movement in the 70s. Most of the red voting states are super low population, so there’s no love for republicans other than their gerrymandering and electoral college fixing.

            I am pretty sure Trump is winning it in 2024 because of the way some of the swing states are removing access to voting. It’s such a fucking fraud

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              That doesn’t change anything I said. A significant portion of your population votes for them. Almost half of the voting population votes for them. You can’t ignore these facts.

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        So they believe that Democrats automatically means higher taxes for them, regardless of income level.

        Should you manage to get them to consider the taxation would only target the wealthy, they are afraid the wealthy class will fire them due to the loss of money. Similarly afraid that stronger worker protections would just lead to the jobs going away. They think the benefits achieved by Democrats favor cities and rural areas don’t see their moneys worth. Now they didn’t spend that much money on taxes and they do get great benefit, but they see the cities get bigger stuff and that leaves an impression.

        Speaking of jobs going away, they fear immigrants. Both on racist grounds and the general perceived increase in labor competition.

        Fewer arms to Ukraine because they see it as wasting money on a cause that has nothing to do with them. More arms to Israel because they are afraid of Muslims.

        Particularly dangerous as key people recognize this is a lot of people, but not the majority. So there’s a great fear that democratic voting means they would ultimately be marginalized. So they also are the party most inclined to game the vote however they can, mapping districts, limiting voting access, stalling absentee ballots.

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        He is similar to popular non-Americans like Berlusconi, Meloni, Le Pen, and Kickl. Americans aren’t unique in that regard.

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    AND HERE THEY COME INTO THE BACK CORNER IT’S TRUMP IN THE LEAD WITH HARRIS SURGING UP THE INSIDE!!

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    Is that like rubber bands, it’s the same amount only stretched? Like we changed the scales on the graph to make it look bigger.
    Is it really normal to write like that headline in English? Because to me it sounds stupid.
    Seems increases would be the “normal” word to use.

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      i agree but the title would become :
      “Harris stretches increases lead over Trump in what could be significant increase”
      … so then you have twice this same word in the title, which doesn’t sound so good.

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        Yes I see, I still find it weird to call it “stretches”.
        The synonyms “Ben Hur Horse Race” mention would of course be better.

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      Semantics but I mean it does actually indicate more people polling for her instead of Turnip so it’s not stretching in that sense.

      I think they use that word because in American politics things are so polarized that it really feels like any gain really does seem like stretching the tiny group of people that can be won over like a rubber band.