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    I don’t want to play the debunking game all night. I read your link, and here’s their rent increases:

    Rent in the area went from $582 to $907, or a 55.8% increase.

    Rent for 1-bedroom apartments increased 49.5% from $646 to $966 from 2019 to 2024.

    And so on. It looks like they sorted every metro area in the US by percentage increase, which yields a whole bunch of individual metro areas with oddball markets where some super-cheap pandemic pricing ended and so the percent increase in places where it had been $582 for a 1 bedroom apartment during the pandemic, was pretty high. That doesn’t mean the price of housing in general went up by that same high percent.

    Like I say, someone who’s actually struggling, I have sympathy for. You, I don’t, because you’re just out here lying with statistics to try to hurt the people you are claiming to have all this sympathy with.

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        • Replying to “the economy is getting better” with “how DARE you say the economy is good and all the problems are fixed, clearly that’s not the case” as a way of reframing away from the conversation of whether things are getting better, or worse, and why that is. Basically interfering with the effort to understand the policies that help or hurt by simply asserting that everything’s bad, so nothing being talked about can possibly be a good thing.

        Let’s see if we can get through literally all of the bullet points if you want to keep the conversation going long enough; we have 3 so far I think

        It’ll be an easy way to get your hours in at least

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            • Saying “well I’m not doing okay, how dare you say I’m not struggling” and getting all fucked up and angry about it, so that anyone that tells you that millions of low-income workers are making more now than they were a few years ago, like way more, and that’s a good thing, looks like an asshole

            You’re up to 4 out of 6 but I don’t feel like playing anymore. Some other time

            Like I say, someone struggling, I have sympathy for. Someone lying, to try to misrepresent the economy with the ultimate goal of encouraging the election of someone who will hurt those struggling Americans in ways that will make the current struggle life look like sunshine and roses, I don’t have sympathy with. Don’t try to pretend you are one when you’re the other.

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              millions of low-income workers are making more now than they were a few years ago, like way more

              Please do go ask them about their house they just bought with all this “way more” money and how now they’re no longer living paycheck to paycheck. /s

              Did I mention the election at all here? You realize the economy can be “doing great” (for corporations, the stock market, etc) and millions of people can still be struggling right?

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                5/6

                What do you think about inflation? I don’t think it’s really that high, to be honest. I looked at the numbers on the Federal Reserve page, and they seem pretty reasonable to me except for the spike in 2022. What do you think about it, though?

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                  What do you want me to say about it? “I love inflation”? It doesn’t matter what you call it to a family of four putting items back at the grocery store they can’t afford.

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                    Just tell me that you’re mad that CPI doesn’t include housing fuel and food, or whatever

                    I want to get a bingo and exit the conversation