• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    The way third parties are being shut out this election cycle really highlights how undemocratic the US actually is. Democrats are shutting out their spoilers, Republicans are shutting out their spoilers, you are not allowed to vote for anyone but the two ruling parties.

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      2 months ago

      This is patently false. Why are you lying?

      No one should vote for these green or third party candidates because they are not serious or legitimate.

      They disappear after every election and do nothing for downballot candidates.theyre also paid by foreign actors.

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        No one should vote for these green or third party candidates because they are not serious or legitimate.

        In YOUR opinion. But I, and many others, do and will vote third party. No matter how mad you are.

        Having said that, I wouldn’t vote for West.

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        2 months ago

        If they filed the paperwork properly and on time they wouldn’t be able to complain about being shut out… :)

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          This clearly wasn’t a problem before this year. The parties just did what they usually do, but now unknown rules that were never enforced before are suddenly a problem. Oh and the rules are different in every single state. They’d need to hire a legal team to get nationwide ballot access.

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        Tedious libshit - oh we’d love to have a democratic process, but you didn’t jump through all the procedural hoops in exactly the right way (rules we made up and were never voted on lol). Sure they rules are different in every single state and are selectively enforced, but rules are rules!

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            The rules are made up and the game doesn’t matter. Also the rules are hidden behind layers of procedural nonsense and you only find out you broke the rules after the fact.

            It shouldn’t require hiring a legal team to get ballot access. My only point is this isn’t a democratic process.

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              I don’t disagree that it’s not democratic and full of bullshit rules. But don’t complain you can’t win a shitty game if you don’t play by its rules.

              And if you want a different game you need to kick the table over.

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                Sure, but let’s remember what I actually said: what’s happening highlights the undemocratic nature of US elections.

                How we respond to that is important, but it doesn’t change my original point!

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                  There are far, far better examples of the undemocratic nature of US elections than having deadlines for filing paperwork.

                  And if a party can’t even get paperwork filed on time, how are they going to do anything more significant?

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                    It’s still a useful example for third party voters to learn an important lesson.

                    No arguments that these third parties are woefully inadequate.

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              2 months ago

              also, the democrats literally don’t have to jump through these hoops, so tehy can spend their time and money making sure others don’t get on the ballot.

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      Absolutely agree. Even me posting about third parties here has brought more hate and mockery than I’ve ever experienced, even on Reddit! People can be toxic. lol

      But all the backlash has only made me more determined to keep posting news about third parties!

      I believe in people having options and diversity in political opinions. :)

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        Yeah, the problem isn’t the articles you post, those are fine. Trying to misdirect onto that is a strawman. People don’t like you due to how you engage in comment sections with the people that want to talk about those articles.

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        Even if those options do nothing but help elect trump.

        Be honest. You’re really just trying to get trump elected not 3rd party candidates cuz u know 3rd party candidates can’t get to 270