Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce
Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.
15 more years.
Also Boomers, “Minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage.”
And yet, the person who created literally said it was.
Ok then let’s change it to be so? Do we want people to do those jobs or not?
You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.
Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.
Why would you link to some gold bug garbage when you could be sending articles on Reaganomics?
Gold bug garbage‽‽‽ How dare you make such an outrageous accusation!
It’s bitcoin bug garbage.
Sure, in fact, I’m about to have a kid very soon.
Oh wow great. You know what it’ll be yet?
Well of course, they’ll be a wage slave, just like their parents.
Boomers are the most selfish generation 🤷♂️
It’s a bit of a selection bias. The self-sacrificing, hard working boomers have died out.
Only the greedy lazy bigots are still standing.
When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.
it’s by design
If it gets bad enough, birth rates will go up. Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.
We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!
This, but also if it’s this bad for me, why would I create more people to partake?
I was shopping for daycare trying to kinda get a financial picture of how we could swing it not too long ago and the cheapest daycare I could find came out to about twice my mortgage lol. So I guess I either hit the lottery so I don’t have to use daycare or I just don’t have kids
For me it’s more about not subjecting a person to my own residual trauma and a society that’s accelerating towards self-annihilation
Maybe if our leaders created a society more conducive to having kids more people would have them.
Hey government, are you paying attention?
- You want families? Help people make more money and give them assistance affording literally everything, especially childcare, healthcare, housing, and education.
- Republicans: If you actually care about families, help them afford things as stated above.
- If you really believe in small government, make it easier for immigrants to become Americans.
Otherwise you’re gonna be starting down the barrel of a demographic collapse that will drag America into an economic gutter it’ll likely never class it’s way out of. Like China.
Childcare is a massive one that needs government funding. You can pay 1.5k per child and given that many places do 1 teacher to 3 infants, the literal max that one teacher can make, if every penny went to the teacher, is 4.5k/month, or 54k/year. This does not include facilities, utilities, administration, taxes etc. we all know in reality the teacher salary is much, much less.
In order to fairly compensate childcare staff, rates in reality need to be much higher. The problem is that severely limits access to childcare, which has a cooling effect on parents advancing their careers, because many will not have a choice between being a stay at home parent or working.
Therefore the government supplementing the costs is a much-needed solution.
Well it’s 3 things for me:
- Too expensive
- Don’t think I’d make a good dad, especially since:
- I really don’t like children.
I’m not an antinatalist, though. I think we can still improve our situation, so I don’t agree with choosing to not have children, because of the current state of the world, or because of fear it’ll become too extreme. I guess it’s possible you just want to wait to see if it gets any better, but personally speaking, if I were to have children, I’d choose to do so before I was 40. It isn’t enjoyable for the child, for them to be born much later than that.
Part of my problem is i can’t even find trustworthy relationships. Everyone is addicted to hook up culture and finding their next partner on their phone. I’ve even had people claim I’m sexist because I’d want my partner to remain sober during their pregnancy (I’d be willing to stay sober with them the entire time as well).
Ummm…those people are absolutely not people who should be having children anyhow so I guess you’re dodging a while bunch of Bullets?
I wonder how many won’t have any due to the Weimar conditions in America or the looming climate apocalypse. In combination with financial issues I assume it is huge.
Very hard to justify bringing more people into the world when the folks already here feel so miserable.
I guess we’ll all just be childless cat ladies.
I’d love to have kids, but I don’t feel like I can afford it, even though I make better money than many.
Currently working my way through domestic adoption. If you’re in a state that’s criminalized abortion, you’re in luck. The maternity ward is filling up with people who make a lot worse money than many.
This is concerning. Especially people telling poor people to not have kids. Are we just gonna take it and accept that the joy of being a parent and having children should only be a right bestowed on the wealthy? Poor people are stuck in a financial fuck loop that they will never escape, having children is the only joy some people will experience in this fucked up system
Edit: it’s crazy how many people have been brainwashed into accepting this roundabout eugenics and telling poor people they aren’t entitled to children
And how are poor people supposed to afford that joy when we can barely afford to keep ourselves housed/clothed/fed?
You aren’t. You’re supposed to stay poor, unhappy, and unable to support your kid so they can’t get a good education and can’t critically think and are taught to worship trump and the GOP.
Start making heads fucking roll
I’m going to counter with 2 distilled, oversimplified thoughts:
Happiness is a choice; most people can find a way to be happy in their lives with what they have.
People shouldn’t have children mainly to experience joy, be complete, or just because. That’s fucked up. I know people will fluff out a number of reasons if challenged, but I think you nailed it, and I think more than a few people have kids just to have kids.
All I’m hearing is neuter the poor people
