• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Despite his efforts, Dolan’s message did not gain enough traction. His campaign, funded largely by personal loans, couldn’t match Ocasio-Cortez’s $8 million war chest.

    You people are living in an oligarchy and “who has more money for this season” being a perfectly normal news bit outside of popular sports is completely insane.

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      That’s because billionaires have purchased SCOTUS. The outcome of a single court case has allowed unlimited money from whomever into election campaigns.

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      Jesus fuck you people claim it’s rigged no matter who wins

      If the moderate wins you claim the DNC tipped the scales

      If the progressive wins you claim corpos tipped the scales

      Maybe just shut the fuck up?

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        Jesus fuck you people claim it’s rigged no matter who wins

        Headline: “Person with most money wins race handily”

        Far Left Antifa CCP Tankie on Lemmy: “Damn, seems like the sheer volume of money is determining the winners of these races”

        Reasonable Rational Centrist: “STFU, you stupid idiot! Why can’t you just be happy that the person with the most money won?!”

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          Yeah, that’s how elections work. If it were in good faith, it’d be a valid complaint. But it’s not. It’s just another thing they pulled from a hat labeled “how can we make Democrats look bad here?”

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        The DNC are not moderates. They are economic far right with imperialist foreign and racist internal policy, but some LGBT rights sprinkled in between.

        And i am quite sure if people like Sanders or Stein would win it will definitely not be because of corporations funding them, more the opposite actually.

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      You realize that “you people” includes you, correct?

      Or are the mega rich treated just like everyone else where you are?

      If so, where is this magical land of fairness?

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        I do not life in the US. However because of US hegemony and my country being a suck up to the US i have to follow what is going on there.

        But in case there is any doubt. The country i live in, which is Germany is corrupt and authoritarian with a complicit public and private media as well as the “center” parties moving further to the right and helping fascism rise faster than ever before. The “liberal” middle class are to a large extent just self delusional racists and the country will become a fascist hellhole in the next ten years.

        So if you have the opportunity, please help spread awareness about all the shit happening here too.

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            It is, expect everything to lurch to the right for the foreseeable future. Get ready for more humanitarian crises as we in the west increase sending climate and conflict refugees back to countries of origin or 3rd countries for “asylum processing” as climate change really starts to bite.

            Also, I hope you enjoy Cold War 2: Arctic Summer Melt.

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            I don’t know, Labour should win a landslide next week in the UK. And Conservatives will become a party #3 or even #4 for the first time since forever. Tories also ran out of money, lol.

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          Eh… There are a variety of end-runs around this mechanism.

          Hiring politicians on as lobbyists or allowing friends and family to sit on private run boards and trusts can create a back channel for money to flow into a politician’s pockets. Public money can be funneled into private profits for which the supporting politicians are also stockholders. And politicians can receive discounted/free services from friendly private sector constituencies. FOX News, the classic example, is a multi-billion dollar network dedicated to running Republican-friendly media. But when corporate lobbyists and political strategists can be found everywhere from the boards of NPR/PBS to the guest chairs of MSNBC to the editorial rooms of the WaPo/WSJ/NYT, there’s really no safe spaces left.

          You can mitigate the direct “bag of cash for favors” effect that, say, John Boehner cutting tobacco lobbyist checks on the floor of the House has produced in the past. But you can’t keep public sector administrators from finding ways to receive kickbacks via private sector channels unless you completely divorce these institutions.

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            Eh… There are a variety of end-runs around this mechanism.

            There are any number of hypothetical end-runs around just about anything you can think of, that doesn’t make protections, mechanisms, controls, or safeties useless.

            In the US, political bribery is nearly 100% legal. I’d rather have some hoops for corrupt officials to jump through. We don’t even make them break a sweat in this country.

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              There are any number of hypothetical end-runs

              Not even hypothetical. We just had the SCOTUS kick down the door on legal bribery in Snyder v United States.

              I’d rather have some hoops for corrupt officials to jump through

              I mean, if we’ve got a magic lamp I can do better than a few hoops. But the system is of the corrupt, by the corrupt, for the corrupt.

              At some point, you’re forced to recognized the farce of democracy at work.

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                IIRC, people were talking about places in this thread that aren’t the US.

                As stated, political bribery in the US is nearly 100% legal. You can even study it in school and make a career out of it.

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                    Sure, but that doesn’t mean that even discussing real or hypothetical measures to reign in corruption is inherently worthless because you can sometimes get around some of them.

                    I hate the US “either we solve everything, or nothing is worth doing” mindset that’s pervasive in this country, and the only reason I responded is because you’re providing a good example of it.