• db2@lemmy.world
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    I was trying to understand who would downvote science, then I remembered too many people limit themselves to just the one book. 🤦‍♂️

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      Not even those bookkeeping accountants serving the satraps back in ancient Persia could have imagined they’d get this far while stitching together that patchwork narrative that came to be known as the one and only true book for fooling the suckers.

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        wait wasnt the bible primaruly written by greeks, Syrians, turks, Palestinians, and West Asians?

        And the quran was written by Arabs all over West Asia right?

        What Persian book do millions of people follow nowadays? Or was I taught wrongly?

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          Of course you were taught (partially) wrong.

          What some call Old Testament was written by Palestinians firstly in the Neo-Babylonian, then Persian diaspora. Don’t make any mistake, these people were privileged aristocrats, either secular or religious. I put the time of the writings in the Persian period what’s arbitrary but not proven wrong. They were cult, and rich, enough to work as copyists, scribes and bookkeepers: activities well appreciated by the satraps. One could say that the Persians invented the bureaucracy.

          And the Egyptians had a finger in the New Testament too, but the majority of Coptic contributions in the first two centuries was ruled out by Roma.

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            What Persian book do millions of people follow nowadays? Or was I taught wrongly?

            Mithraism is alive and well in its Judeo-Christian transmutation.

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    Just based on the video, it sounds like LUCA was no less “alive” than that which evolved from it. Just because it needed certain ingredients/environment to survive & replicate that archaea & bacteria don’t need didn’t make it not “alive.”

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      Just because it needed certain ingredients/environment to survive & replicate that archaea & bacteria don’t need didn’t make it not “alive.”

      The double negative is super throwing me off . Can you ELI5 please.

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        The descendants of LUCA need certain conditions in order to survive and replicate. LUCA also needed certain conditions in order to survive and replicate, they just happened to be different ones from the conditions that its descendants need. But that difference doesn’t make one any more “alive” or “not alive” than the other.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      I agree, the whole view of life being a binary is kind of silly in my opinion. It’s a continuum from inorganic matter that simply reacts to the environment to self organizing living matter. Living things take input energy and then instead of resolving energy gradients directly as basic chemical reactions do, they channel this energy through metabolic pathways which allows maintaining some internal state. So, in a sense, it’s kind of like a battery which facilitates delayed energy gradient resolution.