Am I the only one here that got really bad experience with nextcloud and didn’t figured how to make it work correctly?

I’m talking about painfully slow login pages, ages to show files, even upgraded hardware with disk entirely capable of saturing full gig network connection and still…
Getting only about ~30ish MB/s when downloading from nextcloud.
Incredly slow document loading with collabora…

Even if my hardware is not new-gen, a app like immich works flawlessly and loads everything instantly.
Is it the fault of next cloud or am I doing something wrong?
Are alternatives like seafile or openCloud better?

Willing your help fellow selfhosters

  • cyberwolfie@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    I’ve been running tge AIO container for several years now and it is running perfectly fine. I only enable whatever I use, so for instance no Collabora.

    But for Collabora, while it should be good for single-person use, if you require some kind of collaborative simultaneous work, you should probably set up the high-performance backend. I did this at work for a NC-instance hosted via Hetzner and it works well when we tried it, but we don’t really use those kinds of tools much in our daily work.

  • chillpanzee@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    I installed AIO on an old machine (retired gaming PC) a few months ago. I use NC notes and file sharing, and have disabled other services I don’t need. It’s running behind a proxy server. It’s worked fine so far. I use Immich for photos though, not Nextcloud. I heard a lot of gripes about Nextcloud for photos.

  • oyzmo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    I tried to get it working with calibra office, but gave up 🙈and do agree that it is one of the more difficult programs to setup on a server.

  • plm00@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    1 day ago

    Speeds weren’t too bad for me, but setting it up was a pain. Even when AIO came out, I spent hours trying to get it right. After several years and tearing it down and rebuilding now and again because something would get messed up, and realizing it was nearly impossible to get it to work with Tailscale instead of a reverse proxy, I decided it was time to throw in the towel. Nextcloud parades itself as a product anyone can use, but in practice it feels like it was meant for enterprise users.

  • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    you arent the only one. I had suck a painful onboarding process with next cloud from the docker setup to the speed of it to the UI that I just gave up and decided to use a combination of immich and syncthing instead.

  • dbkblk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    I had tried in the past and optimized the hell out of it, but I found that’s a really slow software. I appreciate the features, but it looks like they have made a really bad foundation, and built some nice features upon it. Seafile is WAY better performance wise! (but less features). Depending on your needs, the best middleground I’ve found is syncthing between my PC and sftpgo to expose webdav / sftp. There is no lighter setup than that.

  • otacon239@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 day ago

    I constantly would get files stuck in the database that I couldn’t delete. All of the forum posts would talk about going into the database to fix it, but the whole point of NextCloud for me was to completely avoid database management.

    I’ve fallen back to using DUFS or copyparty for most things since I really just needed my file store to be browsable via web in some cases.

    I probably would still be using NextCloud if they didn’t obfuscate the file system.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 hours ago

      They don’t obfuscate the filesystem, it’s right there in clear folder trees under each username in the chosen data folder with all the filenames you see in the UI, you can do whatever you want with it.

      I hear this bullshit constantly and I go back to check just to make sure I’m not fooling myself and there it is. Where do people get this from, do you not know how to navigate a filesystem?

      • otacon239@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 hours ago

        It’s been a long while since I used it and at one point I did figure out how to browse it, but I remember documentation pointing out that it’s meant to be left alone and do all your file management through NextCloud itself.

        Sometimes I needed to do big file operations or drop in a chunk of data straight from the server, but it wouldn’t ingest those files unless I did a sync or upload them using the client.

        Maybe things have changed, but last I used it, it was 14 services that were all sort of good when I needed the service to do one thing really well.

  • spacelord@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1·
    1 day ago

    Never had issues setting up Nextcloud with Podman, but on 3 occasions I tried to integrate OnlyOffice with it and couldn’t get it to work.

    In the end, I simply dropped both of them because the whole idea was to have an editor with it. I decided to go with the approach where I use Syncthing to sync my documents folder to multiple machines and my phone, and edit using LibreOffice on each machine.

  • czardestructo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    My install is bare metal, all SSS, redis and php-fpm optimization and I’m extremely happy with the performance. Also use transcoding from an Intel a380 and use Memories for the whole family. Works snappy and flawless. You need to tweak the php settings.

  • sorghum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    No, I’ve been trying to get my instance working again with cloudflare tunnel. It was working, then broke and their support forums have been useless. I’m currently looking for a solution to have a self hosted calendar that is publicly available via web for people to view.

    If anyone has any recommendations, please send them my way.

    • foremanguy@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Native install.
      Redis installed on the network and accessed by nextcloud.
      Separate database on host.

      EDIT : formating