• Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    Just like the “men would do anything but go to therapy” meme, Americans would rather install malware on their phones than get out to vote.

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        What’s this supposed to mean? You’re tripping on several fronts.

        Not only am I a person of color and I also heavily criticize Meta/Amazon/Google and their egregious apps, but news just came out a couple of days ago that the Chinese government sponsored literal malware and attacked civil rights activists with it from inside the US. Yes, it’s obviously different than social media, but what do you think they’re doing with unlimited access to a popular app that everybody and their grandma has on their phones collecting all that data about people’s viewing habits and manipulating feeds?

        And yes, I’m aware it’s technically spyware but my comment was hyperbole saying Americans would knowingly install malware if they could. They’re one step away from it pretending it’s activism.

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          but what do you think they’re doing with unlimited access to a popular app that everybody and their grandma has on their phones collecting all that data about people’s viewing habits and manipulating feeds?

          Never seen a double down while pretending to sidestep quite like that

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        What, saying that Americans don’t vote? They don’t, just look at the polls. Among those were family members I tried to convince to get out and vote because they’d actively refuse. One even threatened me over it, like wtf. lol

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          In swing states, yes. But for the majority of americans not in a swing state, their gripes are at least somewhat valid thanks to gerrymandering.

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            Gerrymandering has been a huge problem for a while, what makes you think this time it played a pivotal role in Trump’s victory? If that was the case, he would have won the electoral vote but not the popular vote, but he won the popular vote, first Rep pres to do so in 20 years apparently. It helped secure past Rep presidencies, but doesn’t to have done so this time around.

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              Gerrymandering only impacts the House of Representatives and no impact on the president or any other government positions.

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            Harris: 75,012,178 votes
            Trump: 77,302,416 votes
            Source

            3 million people voted third party, nearly 90 million people didn’t vote at all- and you blame democrats….
            Source

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              If it wasn’t for Hillary’s pied Piper strategy, Trump never would have been elevated with billions of dollars in free media to become president. If it wasn’t for Kamala Harris embracing right-wing politics and every policy of bidens that the public opposed, we wouldn’t have Trump right now. Democrats are toxic poison and are their own worst enemy

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                Riiiiight. It’s always something other than what the numbers show.

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        If voting didn’t do anything then they wouldn’t be trying so hard to suppress it.

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          To give you the illusion that your vote matters. When one billionaire has more political influence than millions of citizens, your vote doesn’t mean shit

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            Two things can be true at once: Voting matters, and also billionaires have extremely outsized political influence. You know what part of that outsized political influence tries to do? Make people think voting doesn’t matter and also pass laws to make it harder to vote. Why do you think Republicans were in such a rush to make it illegal to give out water bottles to voters in Georgia after they went blue in 2020? You’re legitimately demented if you think all that is just a ruse to make you think voting is important.

            There are problems with voting in America, and political corruption is rampant, and Congress is literally for sale, but voting is still how you choose which players are in the game. Using systemic flaws as an excuse to do nothing is a psyop tier opinion.

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            Next time ask them why they don’t personally run for office. Walk them through how only the capitalist class can actually afford to do so. The only people that can run are either members of the capitalist class or people who promise to serve the interests of the capitalist class. You can only vote for a candidate that doesn’t prioritize your interests above those of that capitalist class.

            Maybe they’ll get it. Someday.

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        I do vote and got two of my first choices elected each time. If I didn’t, their chances would decrease. What do you even mean voting means shit? My country does not have a college of representatives so my vote counts exactly as one vote.

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        >never votes because he doesn’t think his vote matters

        >awful politician gets elected because he didn’t vote

        See guys? Voting doesn’t work!

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          We have Trump because of Democrats, specifically Hillary Clinton and her pied Piper strategy.

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            So, it had nothing at all to do with the three million people single issue third party voting and the almost ninety million people not voting at all?

            See, you are offering an opinion on why. I’m offering facts on why. Big difference.

            Either you all have to admit that your single issue protest vote was VERY effective in sending a message that you won’t support someone that you don’t like- thus, helping trump get elected, or….

            You have to admit that your protest vote failed miserably, and your message fell flat without ever being noticed and your third party vote was wasted- thus not helping to pad the numbers of the only person that could have kept him from being elected.

            Which will it be?

            Because we all heard all of the threats from the third party protest voters prior to the election. You all were going to send a clear message… so tell me- do you believe it was it heard, or not?

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              I didn’t cast a protest vote. A protest vote is one that is cast against something kind of like Democrats voting against Trump. The outcome that we got is 100% the result of Democrats thinking that they are any different than Republicans your party answers to the same bankers. The same CEOs the same donor class that the Republicans do for the same and means

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                Currently, a 3rd party vote IS a protest vote. Because it is a vote against the only person that could have stopped trump.

                ALL third party voters knew they were voting for someone that has a barely above zero chance to win…

                So it was a protest- a throwaway vote. Regardless of how you want to sell it, no matter how loudly you scream from the hills.

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                  The throwaway vote is the ones that were blindly cast for right wing Republicans that called themselves liberal

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                    So you’re saying that seventy five million people are wrong and threw away their vote on the one person that had a chance to stop trump……

                    While you’re right about your idea to vote for someone that had an almost zero chance to win?

                    Care to explain this?