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Sure. Ban Red Dye No. 3, but let’s allow all the homeopathic bullshit we want because hey why regulate that stuff? They just give it to kids.
I agree with you, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
This is barely “the good.”
A 1990 study concluded that “chronic erythrosine ingestion may promote thyroid tumor formation in rats via chronic stimulation of the thyroid by TSH.” with 4% of total daily dietary intake consisting of erythrosine B.[10] A series of toxicology tests combined with a review of other reported studies concluded that erythrosine is non-genotoxic and any increase in tumors is caused by a non-genotoxic mechanism.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythrosine#Safety
Humans are not rats and no one is eating that much Red Dye No. 3 a day.
From reading about it, it’s really a risk/reward call. Red 3 has no nutritional or flavor-enhancing purpose. It’s just a decoration, so why take any risk, however small?
Because this took a hell of a lot of time and effort and taxpayer money that the FDA could have spent on so many other more important things.
I’d be curious about what the cost actually is?
Right so I mean—the cost of research and analysis and the entire process of determining the possible risks is money that simply must be spent either way, even on products that are ultimately deemed suitable for market. That’s the entire purpose of the FDA, to find these things out.
So we’re really just looking at the costs associated with the ban itself. Such as the labor hours of FDA employees setting it up? Communicating it to people? I agree with your concerns I’m just trying to get a sense of what we actually spent to arrive here
I can’t give you numbers, but it’s a federal regulation. A lot of reports have to get written and a lot of research has to be done, especially in the field of federal regulation as a whole, which is so insane that we literally have no idea how many federal laws there are. And then all of that documentation has to be read by other people and approved all the way up the chain. So we are talking a lot of people’s time and effort (which translates into taxpayer money) that could have better been spent on things which are causing active harm.
I’ve genuinely never seen someone play Devil’s advocate for a food dye of all things.
I’m not playing Devil’s Advocate, I’m saying this is a really minor good in the greater scheme of things and I imagine the cost and time breakdown in terms of what it took to accomplish took a lot away from other, more important things.
Studies have also indicated this dye (and others) could cause hyperactivity and similar problems in children.
Any easy way to figure out 4% as grams in a human diet?
Assuming a person eats ~1.8kg of food per day, that would be ~72 grams. Basing that math off of a number I had heard previously stating that adults eat anywhere from 3-5lbs of food daily.
Thanks, I was wondering what was wrong with it.
At least homeopathic anything is not directly harmful in the context of ingesting it, because it contains no active ingredient.
It’s only harmful in that people don’t understand that it’s bullshit and therefore believe that it works, and might skip actual effective treatment for whatever their ailment is in favor of cheaper (and totally ineffective) homeopathic whatever-the-hell. For that reason it should at least be regulated to the extent of having a big neon warning sticker on it that says, “This product is completely ineffective and accomplishes nothing other than setting your money on fire.”
I’m all for outlawing it from a consumer advocacy standpoint because it’s a scam, but otherwise it’s just expensive water.
Except that it’s ridiculously unregulated and it’s not even actually “homeopathic” half the time, it contains actual pharmaceuticals or even just straight up poison.
Here’s an example. It took ten years for the FDA to get this company to do a voluntary recall despite their product giving babies seizures.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/04/13/homeopathy-tablets-recall/
I’m amazed people aren’t aware of this stuff.
Yeah, that’s ridiculous.
Just slapping a “homeopathy” label on something with no oversight can’t be an automatic dodge-all to regulation. If Hershey needs to prove what they put in a candy bar, anyone hawking homeopathic products should need to prove what they put in there as well.
MOD: In light of reports related to homeopathy:
There is a studied and demonstrated harm associated with homeopathy. However, claims made in ignorance of this will not be removed as misinformation at this time.
Read more: Adverse effects of homeopathy: a systematic review of published case reports and case series | 2012
Who numbers all these dyes anyway?
No. 2
Who does No. 2 work for?
That’s right, buddy. You show that turd who’s boss.
Just remember to breathe! Else you might blow out your O ring, drop a lung.
Yeah baby!
No. 1
“the link between the dye and cancer does not occur in humans”
So just because it’s carcinogenic in rats means it’s banned. But sure, let’s keep selling cigarettes. This is just a big joke.
Cigarettes are fairly easy and obvious to avoid, disregarding the occasional whiff when you’re out and about.
Food additives less so, especially when in it’s in a lot of different foods and manufacturers may change previously “safe” formulas.
Oh no! What about Big Red?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNMq3-mN0JU
EDIT: It’s OK, we still have Red 40
I thought Red No. 5 was the bad one. I feel like I remember that from somewhere.
Yellow 5.
Rumors of it killing sperm back in the days of Surge.
Surge. Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.
How are you knees/hairline?
😎
No issues with hairline, but I’m a woman so hopefully that’s not something I need to worry about. Knees? Seem ok but no injuries there in the past, thankfully.
Oh, dammit.
How’s your… Your…
Hmm…Too soon for menopause jokes unless you were in or beyond college for those references…
Hows that… Nostalgia for things not sucking treating you??
Hah! Got her.
