Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California’s devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

  • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    You know California could just not pay the federal government taxes for a year and we would be back to 100 real quick.

    No reason to giving money to other red welfare states that this state earned.

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        16 days ago

        That would be a very dangerous escalation. I love the idea of the red states finally finding out but that’s not how that would go unfortunately. We’re in this union for life for the worse.

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          It’s supposed to be for better or for worse. Lately it’s just been better if you’re a red state that refuses to invest in education and worse if you’re a blue state that actually generates money from your educated and well-paid citizens. Enough is enough.

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            You’re essentially arguing for succession. That means civil war. You can assume neither of us survive that if anyone does. This echo chamber has gotten real dumb

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                You’re a troll or an idiot if you believe that. A civil war in a country with this man nukes could be the end of humanity and would absolutely cause unbelievable devastation for California even if it somehow won so much worse than paying into federal taxes. That is a lose lose. I would think you’re a Chinese troll but even China would lose one of it’s biggest trade partners and it would be devastating for their economy

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      Mexico is helping while “America first” government officials are deliberately withholding aid. Absolute demons.

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        Mexico takes the high road and helps after all they have said and done. It speaks volumes about the Mexican politicians and shows that our conservatives are the enemies they make everyone else out to be.

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          they’re worse than enemies. we’ve seen enemies help each other during devastating natural disasters. countries with long history of animosity still send each other humanitarian aid in times like this.

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    16 days ago

    The guy who represents one of the welfare states that takes a lot more money from the union than they give back… is doing this to one of the big blue states that gives to the union a lot more than they get back?

    Fucking pathetic, greedy, immoral little shit. I hope his home gets wiped out in the next natural disaster that hits good state.

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    I guess California and other blue states should also tie federal taxes to things of their own. Maybe even leave the union altogether, alongside with other states.

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    The entire qon thing of “California bad” is just so very fucking stupid. It’s clear they are very jealous of California, which is arguably our most important state.

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    Doing something so cartoonishly evil to so many people who so recently lost everything?

    I don’t know, sounds like a safety issue for him. Hopefully his preservation instincts kick in.

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      I honestly think this is going to be the start of hopefully cold civil unrest. GOP will block federal aid, California and maybe other blue states will stop paying federal taxes. Red states start imploding.

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        Yeah except Democrats are generally too cowardly to actually go that far. The most we’ll probably see is lots of lawsuits against the federal government from blue states like during the last Trump admin.

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    Jesus, wasn’t it like a month ago and all Republicans could talk about was how biden was withholding aid from Florida. What’s the point of all these arguments if one side decidedly won’t argue in good faith?

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      Being hypocritical is something they embrace. It shows weakness to argue with them and they know it. They are essentially terroristic in nature and no one should ever have an actual good faith discussion with them since they have proven time and time again that they are incapable.

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      There’s no point, just distraction. They both want the dollar out of your pocket, all the pointing fingers is just so people don’t notice it’s ultimately the same hand.

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    16 days ago

    So the next time Louisiana gets fucked like they did during Katrina we all just tell them to suck it?

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    These are the people they always want to apply the ‘higher ground’ and ‘congressional decorum’ to. Fuck em.