Sadly no. The reality is both sides are demonizing each other to the point where both feel comfortable portraying the other as the enemy. It’s terrifying of you have even a modicum of common sense. Just cause someone likes a different politician doesn’t make them a Nazi, a communist, or any of the words the left and right are throwing around. It’s not normal. And pretending it is is just weird.
That’s bullshit. Democrats all over the place are saying this is likely to be a close election and people really need to get out and vote to beat Trump.
The only sense it’s true that Democrats are taking about it being rigged are that actual, known attempts to rig it, like the fake electors scheme and the storming of the capital, along with the grotesque gerrymandering, all of which is verifiable.
The big one you missed are efforts to purge voter rolls and require all kinds of ID to be allowed to vote. Birth certificate to register is ridiculous.
I do not agree with your assessment of “reality.” Only one side is actively against bodily autonomy (especially for women) and wants to look at kids genitals and police which toilet a human shits in. Only one side courts the religious ethnostate fascist where their whole stance is in-group vs. out-group (aka, demonization). Pointing these out isn’t demonization, these are facts. If someone likes politicians from that side, the odds are good it does indeed make them suitable for the various negative labels they don’t like. The late Dr. Bob Altemeyer studied right wing authoritarianism (both the leaders and followers) and even developed a rubric that would predict right wing authoritarian followers. They are dangerous because they eschew reason for vibes and are extremely susceptible to demagogues.
Give this a read and see if it changes your opinion on “both sides”
There’s a very slight, very marginal, barely noticeable difference between liberals commenting on the SCOTUS decision to halt the recount in Bush v Gore circa 2000 and conservatives baselessly claiming millions of illegal ballots were cast in the state of California in 2016, preventing the incoming President from claiming both the EC majority and the popular vote win.
I would not describe these as perfectly identical attitudes toward an electoral contest.
Also, republicans doing everything they can to suppress votes. Including things like
Changing identification rules unnecessarily resulting in people not getting to vote who have voted for literally decades the same way.
Aggressively wiping voter roles knowing it will affect democrats more than republicans.
Bring on a Post Master general to start dismantling mail sorting machines significantly slowing down the mail… Right after stats showed democrats were much more likely to vote by mail.
All this bullshit happens and democrats will bitch about how unfair it is, but will still accept the results.
Sounds pretty fuckin different to me. This isn’t a “both sides” argument.
Democrats accept the results but aren’t happy with it. Republicans don’t accept the results. And honestly, this feels like it has only become central to so Republicans are since Trump came along.
What’s funny to me is this is the attitude of both sides fans.
Only one “side” has “fans” though.
it’s the attitude that one side says both sides have, but we know they (and you) already live in an invented reality anyway.
Sadly no. The reality is both sides are demonizing each other to the point where both feel comfortable portraying the other as the enemy. It’s terrifying of you have even a modicum of common sense. Just cause someone likes a different politician doesn’t make them a Nazi, a communist, or any of the words the left and right are throwing around. It’s not normal. And pretending it is is just weird.
That’s bullshit. Democrats all over the place are saying this is likely to be a close election and people really need to get out and vote to beat Trump.
The only sense it’s true that Democrats are taking about it being rigged are that actual, known attempts to rig it, like the fake electors scheme and the storming of the capital, along with the grotesque gerrymandering, all of which is verifiable.
The big one you missed are efforts to purge voter rolls and require all kinds of ID to be allowed to vote. Birth certificate to register is ridiculous.
I do not agree with your assessment of “reality.” Only one side is actively against bodily autonomy (especially for women) and wants to look at kids genitals and police which toilet a human shits in. Only one side courts the religious ethnostate fascist where their whole stance is in-group vs. out-group (aka, demonization). Pointing these out isn’t demonization, these are facts. If someone likes politicians from that side, the odds are good it does indeed make them suitable for the various negative labels they don’t like. The late Dr. Bob Altemeyer studied right wing authoritarianism (both the leaders and followers) and even developed a rubric that would predict right wing authoritarian followers. They are dangerous because they eschew reason for vibes and are extremely susceptible to demagogues.
Give this a read and see if it changes your opinion on “both sides”
https://theauthoritarians.org/
There’s a very slight, very marginal, barely noticeable difference between liberals commenting on the SCOTUS decision to halt the recount in Bush v Gore circa 2000 and conservatives baselessly claiming millions of illegal ballots were cast in the state of California in 2016, preventing the incoming President from claiming both the EC majority and the popular vote win.
I would not describe these as perfectly identical attitudes toward an electoral contest.
They are barely noticeable differences. Like between an ant and a blue whale.
Also, republicans doing everything they can to suppress votes. Including things like
All this bullshit happens and democrats will bitch about how unfair it is, but will still accept the results.
Democrats will tell you that if they lose, it was your fault for not voting hard enough.
Voters will tell themselves the problem was a bunch of evil foreigners who tricked Republicans into doing what they’ve been doing since Nixon.
Republicans will insist they secretly won California and suggest someone needs to “cut down the tall trees” during the next election.
Sounds pretty fuckin different to me. This isn’t a “both sides” argument.
Democrats accept the results but aren’t happy with it. Republicans don’t accept the results. And honestly, this feels like it has only become central to so Republicans are since Trump came along.
I’m confused.
What prominent figures on the left have said something to the effect of “If we lose, the election was rigged!”??
I can only think of prominent figures on the right who have made statements like this.
Or are you saying that those who are against the 2 party system typically fall under the thinking that the election is rigged?