How Democrats used their vast resources has come under particular scrutiny after Harris’ presidential campaign raised — and spent — a stunning $1.4 billion in 107 days. The pace rattled supporters, donors and even some on the campaign, who complained of lavish spending on celebrities and ongoing appeals for money even after Harris lost the election.
The only reason why we found out about 2015 shenanigans was neoliberals tucking tail after trump won so Donna Brazile had a chance to see the books.
This is a huge chance to pry the party out of neoliberal hands, because Jamie Harrison is acting like most of Biden’s picks and resigning before things get difficult.
But there is zero fucking chance $1,700,000,000 was raised and spent in 107 days and there wasn’t any grifting going on. The purpose of Kamala’s campaign wasn’t to win an election, it was to churn a bunch of money so people could take their slices.
We can’t afford to do it a fourth time in a row.
Winning the election needs to be the priority of the party.
I said this in another thread - 1.7 billion in 107 days means spending $15,887,850 a day. Let’s be generous and assume a crazy 12 hour work day, 7 days a week.
That’s $1,323,987 an hour, every hour. 12 hours a day, for 107 days… with NOTHING to show for it.
It’s been Brewster’s Millions since 2016, and at this point the only thing crazier than the party trying it a fourth time is us letting the same people keep calling the shots.
They pick their candidate long before the primary, and before 10 states vote they declare a winner and say it’s over. If a Republican wins, it’s just not a big deal to them.
Because in four years they’ll get even more money to make sure a progressive can’t make it to the general
2020 was the worst, picking Biden after the 3rd primary, and that one being South Carolina…
Because we really want red states determining who the Democratic candidate is… 🙄
I’d love to see it by last election’s turnout percentage.
Vermont went 64% D, let them go first.
Wyoming got 26%, so they go last.
Some state wants to go first? Tell em to work on their turnout in the general.
It seems common sense, and in a close race it trickles down to battleground states after the main voting blocks, while maintaining their voter engagement.
Plus while I don’t think primaries campaigns hurt generals like the DNC keeps saying, this let’s the Dem on Dem ads be ran in places that are voting blue no matter who.
Ooh… that’s a FANTASTIC idea that Iowa and New Hampshire will never let happen. ;)
I think the trick is each state would need to run two primaries, but then some already do, and some run a caucus AND a primary.
The problem here would be burning through all the blue states and not getting enough delegates to become the nominee. Then you really WOULD have Red states picking the candidate.
Yeah, based on this delegate counter:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/delegate-count-by-state
By the time you burned through all the blue states, you’d have assigned 2,541 delegates with 1,976 needed to be the nominee. It’s possible that someone wouldn’t hit that number just based on the blue states.
Under this model, the Democratic Primary for 2028 would be this, then invert it for the Republican Primary.
District of Columbia - 90.3% - 39 delegates
Vermont - 63.2% - 33
Maryland - 62.6% - 134
Massachusetts - 61.2% - 132
Hawaii - 60.6% - 24
California - 58.5% - 587
Washington - 57.2% - 132
Delaware - 56.6% - 37
Connecticut - 56.4% - 88
New York - 55.9% - 274
Rhode Island - 55.5% - 45
Oregon - 55.3% - 89
Illinois - 54.4% - 222
Colorado - 54.2% - 104
Maine - 52.4% - 46
New Jersey - 52.0% - 175
New Mexico - 51.9% - 56
Virginia - 51.8% - 99
NE-2 - 51.3% - 65
Minnesota - 50.9% - 114
New Hampshire - 50.7% - 46Pennsylvania - 48.7%
Wisconsin - 48.7%
Georgia - 48.5%
Michigan - 48.3%
North Carolina - 47.7%
Nevada - 47.5%
Arizona - 46.7%
ME-2 - 44.8%
Ohio - 43.9%
Florida - 43.0%
Iowa - 42.5%
Texas - 42.5%
Alaska - 41.4%
Kansas - 41.0%
South Carolina - 40.4%
Missouri - 40.1%
Indiana - 39.6%
Nebraska - 38.9%
Montana - 38.5%
Louisiana - 38.2%
Mississippi - 38.0%
Utah - 37.8%
Tennessee - 34.5%
South Dakota - 34.2%
Alabama - 34.1%
Kentucky - 33.9%
Arkansas - 33.6%
Oklahoma - 31.9%
North Dakota - 30.5%
Idaho - 30.4%
West Virginia - 28.1%
Wyoming - 25.8%I want same day country wide just like the regular election. Primaries are an electability test and need to be treated as such
Brewster had a way more compelling platform, though (“vote none of the above”).
I remember they said the same thing about Clinton and how she burned through a billion dollars in her attempt to buy a nomination. In the end, Harris brought in a bunch of Clinton leeches to destroy her own campaign. The consultant class ate well this election cycle and they didn’t even have to run a campaign nearly as long.
In the end, Harris brought in a bunch of Clinton leeches to destroy her own campaign.
What?
“Clinton leeches” have been running the DNC for decades…
It’s not that they latched onto Kamala. It’s that they had already fixed the primary and attaching themselves to Kamala was a condition of them give Kamala the nomination.
Hillary’s people are Biden’s people, would have been Kamala’s people.
For 8 years a group of unelected now liberals have been deciding our candidate and running our campaigns.
And those people are fucking idiots
What you need is more support for progressive candidates and fewer centrists.
Anti-Status Quo candidates win in this era. That means Obama, Sanders (hypothetically), and Trump. Clinton Biden and Harris were status quo.
Seems like a good plan after not doing it the first time Trump won.
Useless welts.
They need a compare and contrast with 2016 as well…
2016 - Clinton failed to campaign in key states like Michigan and Wisconsin, said something idiotic about coal mining that couldn’t be walked back that tanked her in Pennsylvania. Lost the election 304 to 227.
2024 - Harris DID campaign in key states like Michigan and Wisconsin, attempted to back-track her previous statements on fracking but nobody in Pennsylvania believed her. Lost the election 312 to 226.
Trump actually gained +1 state in 2024 vs. 2016.
What do these two candidates have in common?
https://theconversation.com/why-do-so-many-believe-hillary-clinton-is-inauthentic-67302
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/7/3/harris-authenticity-problem/?ref=readtangle.com
Watching both women, I told my wife (a big Clinton and Harris supporter), that they both come across as plastic and fake. Their smiles don’t quite reach their eyes. They’re trying to ACT authentic, not genuinely BE authentic.
Clinton almost comes across as psychopathic in this regard and while Harris isn’t quite so bad, the reaction in her camp to her fakeness didn’t help, especially when it came to things like her fake laugh and the coconut tree comment.
https://youtube.com/shorts/br6EHiAWJ_M
I think, in the end, picking Tim Walz as VP highlighted this lack of authenticity because there could not have been a candidate more authentic than Walz and by comparison, Harris looked worse.
Watching both women, I told my wife (a big Clinton and Harris supporter), that they both come across as plastic and fake. Their smiles don’t quite reach their eyes. They’re trying to ACT authentic, not genuinely BE authentic.
Clinton almost comes across as psychopathic in this regard and while Harris isn’t quite so bad, the reaction in her camp to her fakeness didn’t help, especially when it came to things like her fake laugh and the coconut tree comment.
When I hear comments like these, only one thing comes to mind:
Men do it too, they also don’t get elected. See Bob Dole, or Mitt Romney.
People saying what they think they need to say to get elected will always lose to people who genuinely believe what they are saying, even if what they believe is batshit crazy.
Men do what too, come across as “plastic and fake”?
And that sinks their elections? Not coming across as genuine?
We’re talking about Harris vs Trump, right?
Can you say with a straight face that you have ever believed anything you have ever heard out of Trump’s mouth came across as genuine? Not just opportunistic? Not just tailored to his audience?
The man who literally slathers himself in excessive amounts of bronzer doesn’t come across as plastic?
The arguments about successful female politicians coming across as insincere are tiring. Respectfully, I think you might have missed the point of me linking to that specific video. It is all about the unfair expectations projected onto women, to be one way, but to not too much that way, but also be the opposite way too. It is all about being forced to conform to societal expectations while also being expected to come across with sincerity. It is literally impossible.
Trump is genuine because no one would pretend to be that much of a shithead
Counterpoint: Boris Johnson
