• BezzelBob@lemmy.world
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    That the “give heroine to pregnant women and cigs to kids” era of the 18-1900s is the same as the “artificial food additives and lab grown meat” of today

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        Most notably the fact that it grows so quickly by utilizing cancer cells, also that this is the exact same scenario as the cigarette epidemic, no one knows what exactly are the side effects since this has never been done before. Also it’s ironic how most people stay away from preservatives and artificial chemicals because “theyre bad” but will happily down man’s attempt at playing god

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          What’s the actual difference between a cancer cell and a normal cell, aside from the fact that cancer cells don’t kill themselves? Is cancer from a cow transmissible to humans?

          People knew the effects of tobacco for centuries, actually. But also, it became widely known as soon as it started being widely investigated. I have the same argument about vapes all the time. Within like 2 years cigarettes went from being something prescribed by doctors to something that everyone knows gives you cancer. When something is as heavily scrutinized as vapes or lab-grown meat, you can be damned sure the effects will be widely understood within a couple of decades

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            What’s the actual difference between a cancer cell and a normal cell, aside from the fact that cancer cells don’t kill themselves

            You answered your own question

            Is cancer from a cow transmissible to humans?

            Who knows? What’s the whole point. Were playing god without knowing the consequences.

            People knew the effects of tobacco for centuries, actually

            Wrong. Doctors lied about it for years when it first came out and long after

            Within like 2 years cigarettes went from being something prescribed by doctors to something that everyone knows gives you cancer.

            Again, wrong. Early warning signs didn’t show up until the late 50s by then it had been 20-30 years to late. And Dr. Luther Terry didn’t come in for another 14 after that in '64. Even despite this evidence, the tobacco industry went to massive lengths to discredit the research and downplay the health risks by funding biased research, launched propaganda campaigns, and used public relations strategies to create doubt. It wasn’t until '98 that the Master Settlement Agreement came into effect. A whole 68 years before they paid for their crimes.

            When something is as heavily scrutinized as vapes or lab-grown meat, you can be damned sure the effects will be widely understood within a couple of decades

            Decades? You mean the 7+ decades it took for tobacco? After which everyone had died already? Idk about you but I’m not waiting 10-20-30+ years to find out if I get a new disease named after me.

            The fact is people who advocate for this shit don’t understand science and just believe what their told to, just like what everyone believed when big tobacco ran those propaganda campaigns for 70 years, or what some still believe about global warming from big oil’s propaganda campaigns.

            Just because we don’t know something today doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, humans arent as smart as we give ourselfs credit. And just be we did it in the past, doesn’t mean we’ve learned from those mistakes because clearly you all are still buying the shit they feed you and begging for more.

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                Wow, Ignoring quite literally the entire commet and using a “nuh huh” argument. Classic bootleg reddit user tactic

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                  I’m ignoring it because you don’t really have anything to say besides “we don’t know what the health effects of lab grown meat will be” when it’s quite literally exactly the same as normal meat. It’s like complaints about GMOs. The process of producing it may be different, but the physical material that you consume is literally identical on a chemical level. It’s nothing like cigarettes.

  • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If everyone were immortal, and no one needed to worry about resources, that would be awesome and pretending otherwise is the biggest cope.

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      “The only problem about being immortal is that you need to drink blood, a set of ethical problems spanning a tetralogy”, so I haven’t really seen/read about the exact idea you’re talking about. Got any media where people actually say your kind of Immortality is bad?

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    If the point of getting a job is so that you can eventually retire one day, and you know what you want to do when you retire, you should start doing what you want to do now while you can enjoy it.

    Similarly, If you feel like the place you were born in makes you unhappy, move to a different place. There are so many places.

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      The problem is that the one thing I want to do that I’m not already doing is “not work”

      I don’t have any grand plans to take up new hobbies or anything in my retirement (though I’m sure I’ll continue collecting hobbies just as I always have) I just want to be able to do them on my own schedule

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        That was my focus too, finding a way to have more time to myself on my own terms.

        I usually suggest teaching English abroad if you’re a native speaker.

        You could chant primary colors at kindergarteners online line for a maximum of 20 hours per week, or in person for a maximum of 10 hours per week and clear $400 easy.

        You could also teach 20 hours a week for 6 months and then live off the savings for years.

        That’s minimum wage 400 bucks a week, we’ll say you spent $400 for monthly expenses wherever you are, tje other 3 weeks are all your necessary expenses for 3 months without working, or one month partying.

        Want to boost your pay? Take an internationally accredited tefl course online for a couple days, pdf tests, that costs 40 bucks and you’ll instantly be paid more than the minimum wage($20 an hour’s the usual minimum) they pay teachers at any job you apply for.

        If having your own time is really the most important thing to you, as it is to me, the process is very simple, especially for native English speakers.

        You don’t need to do it the rest of your life either.

        Work part-time for a few months and then take a year off to figure out If you’re doing what you want to be doing. At least you won’t be wasting time and money figuring it out.

        Do you want to keep vacationing? Then you have already done it and have experience with that.

        The next year you vacation it’ll be even cheaper and easier than it was the first time.

        Do you want to pursue a hobby professionally? You have time to set that up. Or you can pursue the hobby for fun, indefinitely.

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          You could chant primary colors at kindergarteners online line for a maximum of 20 hours per week, or in person for a maximum of 10 hours per week

          That may work for you, and if it does I’m happy for you, but for me, as much as I want more time for myself and my hobbies, one thing I want even more is to not ever spend any amount of time doing anything even remotely like that.

          I also have no real interest in working abroad even if I didn’t think that job sounded horrible. A week or two of vacation, sure, but by the end of week 2, I’m ready to go home, and that’s really the point here, I want to be able to just stay home, and only leave when it’s to do something I want to do.

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            So youre sure you don’t like the situation you’re in, but equally sure you don’t want to leave that situation.

            You have a lot of company.

            Teaching is not the only option, and no, that’s not what I do.

            It doesn’t sound like you’re really looking for solutions yet.

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    Genders aren’t real. Stop bothering me with how you think people should act regarding their ugly bits. I don’t need to know about your sex life and how proud you are for the way you get your happy sensors wiggled.

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        It shouldn’t be. If gender roles are bad, and it’s not about genitals, what the fuck else is left for the words? There’s no physical or metaphysical meaning to apply.

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          I know it shouldn’t be, I’m just mentioning that it’s controversial because there’s some pretty obvious stuff that people mentioned as a reply to the original question.