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    What are all the Christmas stories all about? It’s always someone being greedy and changing their ways. It is a value in America to be generous and to change your ways. We have just forgotten…

    We just have to actually listen to our revered holiday stories. Shove them down their throats

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        There’s certainly no shortage of White Man’s Burden propaganda floating around. But that’s through philanthropy, not Dickensian morality.

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    They act like literal Bond villians and then act surprised when people see them as less than nice people?

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    All I’m saying is, if it’s the real hero killer, then the lesson we can all take from this - hypothetically - is next time just lie low, don’t go to McDonald’s and especially don’t go to McDonald’s with your fake ID, manifesto and, for the love of Christ, not your favourite 3D printed gun.

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    Actually, it takes a lot of hard work and intelligence to exploit the vulnerable and you’re just jealous you didn’t think of it first.

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    Herp derp “job creators exercising the noblest of impulses: rational self-interest”

    The greatest cultural propaganda the owners achieved through their for profit media and captured education, particularly economics, that enabled all others was that greed/avarice was not the personal failing, character deficit, and destructive force that it is, but instead the highest of virtue.

    Its not. The Gordon Geckos, Mr. Potters, and Ebenezer Scrooges in fiction were cautionary tales, villains. Yet they’ve convinced us that that is what we should either be or worship.

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    Yes but I dehumanize rich folk and technically they’re still human. Just, you know, parasites be parasites.

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    Even if you pay your workers a good wage, the reason you are a billionaire or your company makes billions in profit is because you overcharge your clients which might not be in a good financial situation.

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      the reason you are a billionaire or your company makes billions in profit is because you overcharge your clients

      This is an assumption.

      Costco’s founder, who was also the CEO up until a few years ago, is a billionaire. And that’s a company that is famous both for its very competitive prices on the customer side (insert infamous story about ‘threatening’ to kill someone if they raised the price of that hot dog), AND for how well it treats its workforce.

      You can become a billionaire just by creating something that a large number of people find valuable, and continuing to own it as its value in others’ eyes increases over time. Because that’s what net worth fundamentally is–it’s the price tag of how valuable everyone else thinks shares of that company are worth.

      The implication that you HAVE to be ripping people off to acquire wealth (and when it comes to increasing one’s wealth, ‘billionaire’ is just a distinction of scale) is just plain wrong, an ignorant talking point.

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        It’s not an assumption, the surplus generated to make someone a billionaire comes from the pockets of the customers, they don’t make it appear out of nowhere. Just because something looks like a deal it doesn’t mean that it is, if you’re always paying 5$ for an orange, 3$ feels like a deal because you’ve gotten used to paying 5$, the truth is it’s just not worth either price when you look at the actual cost to bring an orange from the tree to your house.

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          You are suggesting that $X in profit = $X of having “overcharged” the customer.

          This is completely ridiculous on its face. No private entity will or should ever go to all the effort and time and resources to start a new business if there will never be any profit. Obviously.

          And ironically, even if the government gets involved in providing X instead, without profit in mind, the bureaucracy is such that its ‘no profit’ price for X is invariably higher than a price a private entity can charge while profiting.

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            No I’m saying that if their profit didn’t need to take a useless billionaire leech into consideration then prices could be lower.

            That last part is complete bullshit as well and you would know it if you knew anything about crown corporations.

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              if their profit didn’t need to take a useless billionaire leech into consideration then prices could be lower.

              You know the profit existed first, right?

              That last part is complete bullshit as well and you would know it if you knew anything about crown corporations.

              Yeah, they’re totally not huge money pits, I was wayyy off, lol.

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                Profits are revenues minus spendings, remove the leech and you need less revenues to make the same profit. That’s how companies manage to make their numbers look good by cutting staff, but they’ll never cut upper management (the guys you’re defending).

                Ontario privatize hydro, rates go up

                Hydro Quebec is a crown corporations and offers the best rates in North America

                Saskatchewan has the best telecom rates in Canada through its crown corporation

                Quebec and BC have the best car insurance rates because it’s managed by crown corporations

                The list goes on and on and on

                The goal of Canada Post is to offer an essential service to all Canadians at the same low cost, you say private corporations would be better? Well there’s no mail or packages being delivered to remote locations because they don’t want to provide the service. So it’s ok for you to let the private sector handle deliveries and let northern Canada end up being unable to receive mail? Hell, at the moment even in cities is hard to get stuff delivered and costs are much higher than they are with Canada Post, funny how it turns out it’s the opposite of what you said that happens when the private sector is left to handle shit.

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    I’m sorry but I think OP was a bit out of line. Elon Musk for example has billions of dollars but is looking to give himself BILLIONS and benefits. FTFY.