• ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    If you are in an industry where an emergency at 2 am cannot wait until 0900 (or whenever shift starts in the morning), fucking pay a swing shift to be there. Or fairly compensate your employees for calls off the clock. Either way, stop expecting free labor from your employees. And if your business can’t afford to exist without fairly compensating those who work for it, then your business should not exist.

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      3 months ago

      Sounds like dude doesn’t know about the concept of teams paid to be on-call 24/7.

      I’m sure those are exempt. If a well-managed critical server goes down at 2am, you can be sure some employee is part of an on-call team for just such an event.

      That’s not with this about. This is about bugging people to work when they are off the clock.

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        3 months ago

        This is about bugging people to work when they are off the clock.

        And that’s exactly what Kevin is advocating for. He wants the benefits of an on-call team without having to pay for an on-call team.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I’m extremely lucky. I’m a condominium superintendent, and my current job I am on call, but only for emergencies. There’s a security team that will handle most things but call me if it’s actually an emergency, residents don’t actually call me directly after hours.

      I get maybe one real emergency call every other month or less and they rarely take very long to deal with.

      And my compensation is that I get a free 2 bedroom condo, in which I don’t pay rent, utilities, or even my tv or internet bill. And I’m part of a union.

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        3 months ago

        What would be a real condo emergency? Like a pipe burst? Doesn’t sound like something the super could handle without a plumber coming.

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          Yeah usually floods from a pipe or such. Generally I can at least isolate the area and shut off water to the Apartment causing the flood until the plumbers can come and repair things. Or like I may get a call that the garage gate is stuck and I gotta call an emergency repair or something

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      3 months ago

      Him and Jamie Fucking Diamond (CEO of JP Morgan-Chase) who always seems to get quoted as some sage of the economy when in reality he is seeking media attention to push a market or stock a certain way that benefits him or those like him.

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    3 months ago

    Every job I’ve had that requires me to be on call, has paid me for being on call. If I was in an interview and they told me I was expected to pull call for no additional pay, I’d have to sue for injury after enduring the side pain from all the laughing I’d be doing in between them spewing that batshit insane expectation and me promptly walking my ass out of that room.

    Put that shit in the job description and reimburse accordingly… this ain’t rocket surgery.

  • Triasha@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    If it’s important enough that it can’t wait until tomorrow, it’s important enough to pay someone for.

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      3 months ago

      They agree. 100%. They’re aware it’s super important.

      Paying someone to deal with it when vague threats exist?

      Naaaahhh!

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    3 months ago

    “What crazy world do we live in where I can’t eat at closed restaurants or live in houses I don’t own or pay for? What’s next electricians only fix my breakerbox when I pay them? What is this world coming too!?”

    Honestly, I don’t get this.