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    There are not enough ICE officers to conduct mass deportation in red states, let alone blue ones. Trump will require cooperation of local police.

    If he uses the military in Blue states, it’s an obvious attack on the 10th Amendment. It’s also illegal to use the military for domestic police work.

    We can bet on incompetence for now. Trump needs to grow ICE to a large size before he’s even able to conduct a large scale deportation plan of any kind. Deploying the National Guard would be a faux pas, but that’s probably the workaround else need to prepare for legally.

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      Oh no, its illegal to use the military for domestic police work? Deploying the National Guard would be a “faux pas”?

      Well, I’m sure that will stop him for sure!

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        Its the next political bulwark and where we rally next. If Trump runs over that bulwark, then we make plans afterwards.

        But the Military will NOT want to be seen going house-to-house deporting Puerto Rican American Citizens. I know there’s a lot of racists out there, but if they do that, we just take some pictures and the national level outrage and blatant racism on the troop’s faces will be shown for everyone. And trust me, if a mass deportation order were invoked, 100% legal US Citizens will be swept up in the blatantly racist attack.

        These people cannot tell the difference from an illegal Mexican, a legal Haitian or a US Citizen Puerto Rican. I’m serious. So that’s no longer a Trump-specific thing at that point. That’s commanders and soldiers who will have to live with that for the rest of their lives.

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      Trump will require cooperation of local police.

      Plenty of pigs are already on his side, and would help him with this willingly.

      Also, as president, SCOTUS has already ruled that he can pretty much do what he wants as long as it’s an “official” act.

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        Plenty of pigs are already on his side, and would help him with this willingly.

        In some red states, yes. But that’s largely in rural areas. I’m not sure if even a city in a deep-red state like Houston would cooperate with Trump.

        Its not up to the Police in any case. It’d be likely up to the local Attorney’s General.

        Also, as president, SCOTUS has already ruled that he can pretty much do what he wants as long as it’s an “official” act.

        If Trump wants to personally come down and deport Mexicans one by one, I’d love to see it. But otherwise, Trump is going to write a thing that likely won’t make sense. Local police won’t get any money for immigration issues and will complain about funding and long hours. Then all the shit will collapse unless Congress gives more money for a deportation program.

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        If it gets that far, and I’m not convinced it will, Troops aren’t trained for immigration issues.

        Do you think 18 year old dumbass Privates and Corporals know the difference between a Puerto Rican US Citizen and an illegal Mexican? Do you think US Troops have any training on police actions? Lawyers or courts?

        That’s a disaster waiting to happen. We use troops rarely because they’re dumbasses with a gun. We give them exceptional fighting training, but no training on finer details of policing. Use of force will be too high, rights will be trampled, US Citizens will 100% get caught up as military has no fucking training on this subject.

        If it gets that far, then we know what to do. Take pictures, document, build national level outrage.