That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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      There shouldn’t be worms in the poop of a healthy dog. This analogy just keeps getting better and more accurate.

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      Oooh, I hate it so bad…… I used to click “Save” and my word document would ask to save in the only folder I save ALL my documents in. Change the name, save, so easy!

      Now it asks if I want to save to OneDrive… Fuck No Mr Paperclip! I want it in the folder I always use and don’t want to have to select “Other” then dig through screens to select the thing I use every time!

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      Onedrive is pretty ok, other than being annoying. A company I worked for was acquired by another company that had their own cloud storage product. After the acquisition, they forced us to migrate from onedrive to their product. It was so bad… Files would constantly corrupt and disappear, the speed was terrible, trying to share files didn’t work half the time, when sharing folders the people you shared with wouldn’t see all the files in the folder. They also limited our storage from 1TB to 25GB making it pretty useless for storing builds of our product or trying to share VMs.

      And the worst part is that they also closed our SMB network share to force us to use that piece of shit.

      After that experience, I will never complain about Onedrive again.

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        Haha oh man that sounds infuriating. Of course it could be worse, but def could be better

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    Microsoft Teams isn’t all bad! For example, it bogged down my work computer so much at start up that I would basically get an extra break.

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      It temporarily deletes my meetings just before they happen, so that I don’t have to attend them!

      Of course, when I open it later, the meetings are restored, with the original date, and no trace of the deletion. So not attending them is quite hard to explain to others. But it does save me from attending!

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        Just do in what I do. Don’t join meetings most of the time. That way when you do it is noteworthy to the meeting stakeholder.

        Yeah sure my manglers through the years try to have ‘the talk’ but after awhile of training them via sheer apathy they shut the fuck up.

        I solve complex problems, get my tasks done, I’m independent and I stay busy because I’ll get bored. Most meetings could just be an email. There’s no real collaboration except managers or scrum masters asking what your blockers are but not actually doing anything about it. If I think the meeting will be a waste of my time I just don’t show up.

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    What blows my mind is MS fucking bought Skype and somehow Teams still can’t handle video calls correctly. The actual fuck did they do with that acquisition?

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      How the fuck did they let motherfucking Zoom take over. The video-call equivalent of “Googling” something was to “Skype.” When Covid hit, Microsoft screwed the pooch horribly.

      My sister is super high ranking at Microsoft, and when she calls the family, she uses Zoom.

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      Well, I’m a unix guy for 30 years and hated M$ bill gates blablabla and forced to use windows at work etc. Teams was somewhat bad at the beginning, especially start of covid pandemic , I’m using Teams multiple times daily for ~5 years now. But since ~1 year it handles video call pretty nicely, 20+ feeds, share screens, whiteboard, etc. it’s pretty stable at least, don’t crash anymore, and we can have multiple accounts. It took times to reach this state I agree…

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        Teams are losing parts of text chat conversations for me. Not sure if that’s issue of their PWA on Linux or just an issue in general…

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          PWA in Linux is unusable yep, with FF or Edge, super buggy.

          I’m using Teams in Windows, I have a software KVM to move between my Linux PC and work windows laptop

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      The core of what made Skype great was made by a team of engineers in Estonia. Once it got acquired most of those people left the company. Many of them ended up at Twilio.

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    “Your organization has blocked this action”

    I mean this is my work phone, and I’m trying to copy a customer’s phone number from a spreadsheet to the dialer, but thanks man.

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      Not that I’m actually trying to defend MS/Teams (seriously, fuck ‘em both); but this is more due to IT Admin settings.

      We have similar in our company, that’s in place because we handle PIR data regularly and it’s meant to be a speed bump rather than full roadblock.

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    Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

    Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is… actually fine? Yeah, it’s not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it’s the corporate standard around here.

    I can’t tell you how much time I’ve saved not having to do the whole “can you hear me? let me try reconnecting… oh wait try updating your browser” dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It’s been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I’m not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

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      I haven’t really used any other platforms so I can’t really compare but I have encountered enough audio issues too. Especially with new Teams and bluetooth devices.

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        Same, Teams is terrible in terms of getting audio to work properly, our meetings still start with “can you hear me?” And often at least one person has to rejoin after pairing their bt headset again. But honestly everything else I’ve come across is even worse.

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      For me “it just works” doesn’t ring true. Generally at least once a day, I join a call and it won’t let me unmute, and I have to restart Teams.

      Scrolling through history is obnoxiously slow.

      The activity feed is mostly useless, spammed with stuff that isn’t important and it’s the only place that vaguely tries to keep track of ‘Teams’ conversations.

      In my company, I’ve been added to about 70 Teams and it’s pretty much impossible to interact with them, so as a result no one does, they all just start ad-hoc chats, since that’s the only thing that vaguely gets managed in a way people can follow.

      When going cross-organization, it’s a crap shoot whether or not we can use text, voice, and screen share/remote control. I know this is generally due to obnoxious company ‘security’ policies and other solutions have it, but it is a frustration. One recent call with a particularly screwed up company had us on two different meeting platforms at once as well as on an old fashioned conference call, because text was only allowed on one platform, screen share on another, and no audio was allowed on either (despite both supporting all three).

      Sure, Teams suffers, in part, because like all corporate tools it connects you to generally dysfunctional work communities. However it broadly does have it’s own annoyances.

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      I went from teams/ms at another business to google at my current one. If they changed to Microsoft anything I’d burn the place down.

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      Yeah, I have a similar experience, but it certainly lacks in features compared to other messengers. For example:

      • chat - formatting is terrible, Slack is way better here
      • groups - haven’t bothered figuring them out, in Slack making a channel or group message is super natural
      • resources - Teams eats RAM like crazy, Slack seems to be a bit more respectful
      • recent chats/messages - I can never find what I’m looking for, with Slack it’s simple

      I like the integration w/ Outlook because we’re basically forced to use it at work, but Slack is way better for almost everything that doesn’t interact directly w/ Outlook. So if it’s not a scheduled meeting, I and my team much prefer Slack.

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    Ah, they’re all crap.

    Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It’s a corporate communication tool, I don’t use it because I think it’s beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.

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        I’ve had limited experience with slack, but the whole way conversations map to workspaces at least got to be confusing to me, and I would have liked an experience based on me as a user, rather than having my user span workspaces and have to juggle them to figure out how to talk to whoever I’m supposed to talk to at the time.

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    No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.

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    Honestly I don’t know how it is even possible to make such a dog shit product. I think my first webrtc tutorial app works better than this piece of shit.

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      I hate teams and have to use it for work . They insist on having all the important documents I need accessed through teams instead of just putting them in a folder .

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    I work in IT. I think it’s popular because it’s “free”.

    With that said, I put up a picture on the office wall of a Swiss army knife with features like syringe, fire extinguisher, axe, etc and have it labeled Microsoft Teams. Yes, it can do 100 different tasks, fucking poorly.

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      Exactly. Every time I mention some feature I like from Slack to a coworker of mine who loves Teams, they point out how to accomplish the same task, but it’s less intuitive, feature poor, and comes with a handful of caveats. But it can do them, and I guess if you’re used to it, it can be pretty productive.

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    I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter…

    Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?

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      “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”

      Mega corporations that only hire contract workers with no morale or investment in the long term success of the company (because the majority of their efforts are purely to appear shareholders) are not equipped with the means to put out decent products.

      Passion, dedication, investment in workers, and long term talent are what create remarkable pieces of software. Microsoft has none of this because these things are incompatible with the directives of infinite growth shareholder appeasement. Want extra time for QA? nope, that would reduce profits. Want to pay higher salaries to attract better talent? Nope, that would reduce profits. Want to adequately reward employees in ways they actually connect with like raises and bonuses? Nope, that would cut into the boss’ annual bonus and he needs his new vacation home more than we need to afford rent.

      There is an optimal level of profit chasing and company size within which excellent software can be produced, and Microsoft exceeded those thresholds years ago. There is also an optimal phase of capitalism that is conducive to quality innovation and development, and we’re well past it.