Summary

Putin’s actions after Trump’s election, including a delayed congratulations and a denial of a phone call, suggest a lack of respect for Trump’s personal relationship with him.

Russia’s intelligence chief’s statement that Trump owes them favors for their support in his election, along with hints that he is expected to “pay back” certain obligations, amounts to a bold threat of blackmail.

Trump’s foreign policy, which favors a realignment with Russia, may be challenged by Putin’s actions and the revelation of Russian interference in the election.

  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    Trump was never under the impression that anyone is his friend. All his relationships, including to his wife and biological children, are transactional.

    Russia has dirt on him and has for a loooong time. That’s why Putin doesn’t need to suck his dick like the rest of the world’s wannabe dictators do.

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      I’m nearly certain it is true that Russia has dirt on him. But serious question: what possible dirt on trump could even slightly alter his base in the United States? I’m not convinced anything could. They could have videos of him raping an entire kindergarten class and his cult wouldn’t care. So at this point, what power does Putin actually hold? Trump (in theory) could tell Putin to fuck off and that would be the end of it.

      I think it’s admiration and not blackmail that keeps trump sucking Putin’s dick. I think Trump looks at Russia and wishes he could have the same unchecked power that Putin has and so he looks up to him.

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        I don’t think it’s “compromat”. They just bankrolled his entire real estate empire since at least the 80’s. That creates a certain debt to be repaid.

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          It’s likely a bit of both. Trump has no issue not paying his debts and several entities that have done business with him have gone under because of that.

          Russia has to have something on him for him to consider not blowing them off. It’s likely it could be as simple as him considering them a formidable enemy. They could cause problems for him and his family, potentially the foreign assets of his company, etc. They’re not a small bank or drywall company to be messed with.

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        Seriously great question at this point. In 2016 it was commonly accepted knowledge that if Putin released a video of Trump getting pissed on by a woman in a Moscow hotel, that would be the end of his political career.

        Since then, he’s been found to be a rapist in court, has attempted to overthrow the government, and has been found guilty of about 3 dozen felonies with more charges pending - which doesn’t matter any way since Trump’s judges have granted him legal immunity to anything he wants to do. And he was just convincingly reelected with his party winning both the House and Senate.

        At the point, Putin could put out a video of him personally pegging Trump, and it would make no difference.

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          They probably do, but:

          • at this point if surfaced they’ll be claimed as ai- generated
          • his sycos don’t care at all. Nothing he could do would ever sway their opinion, and you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t arrive at using reason in the first place. It’s very much a ‘feeling’ thing instead of facts.
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        I don’t think Trump is capable of admiration, and I also don’t think it’s dirt keeping him in check.

        It might simply be that Trump is that stupid. The parallels between descriptions of Trump and Hitler are striking as well.

        If Trump doesn’t respond to the international humiliation it will be intentional, otherwise if he got his way with the Unitary Executive Power, then he’d just glass Russia and be free from that chain (while probably getting lots of us killed).

        The only thing we know for certain is Russian propaganda is rarely intended for Western audiences.