• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    12 days ago

    I talk to a lot of immigrants, and nobody hates immigrants like immigrants, and nobody complains about immigrants like Trump.

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    11 days ago

    Harm reduction was not attractive enough for them, unfortunately.

    May fate have mercy upon the remaining 2 million Palestinians in Gaza, because Trump will quite assuredly not have mercy on them. I would not be surprised if the end result is their complete annihilation.

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    11 days ago

    Dividing us once again. The only thing that matters is that the wealthy elite won. Anyone who isn’t them lost, and we should all be fighting together.

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    12 days ago

    If you think Trump will do a better job of saving the Palestinian people, you’re in for a rude awakening.

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      12 days ago

      Almost everyone in North Gaza will be dead by New Years. That’s not on Trump, that’s on Biden. He can’t even be bothered to airdrop food any more, let alone tell Netanyahu in public to stop.

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        11 days ago

        It’s not a fantasy. It’s anger and disdain for the stupidity of voting against their own interests and bringing others down with them, not wishing harm. I’ve said this in other posts, but I bet there is more than meets the eye with this situation that we aren’t privy to. The options were the VP of a guy that did provide some aid to Gaza and told Netanyahu he was going too far, which they feel isn’t enough, or a guy that is ok with them just wiping them out. The choice is a chance for Palestine to survive vs all but certain annihilation. Does anyone think Hamas would do anything different if the roles were reversed? I don’t have a solution, but Trump is going to give them more of what they have a grievance with.

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          11 days ago

          None of that addressed what I said. You can’t just gloss over tens of thousands of deaths and say got for more of it and harass grieving families for not going with your plan. Why even bring up Hamas as an excuse, except to avoid addressing Biden’s role in mass starvation of civilians?

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            11 days ago

            You can’t just gloss over tens of thousands of deaths and say got for more of it and harass grieving families for not going with your plan.

            Why even bring up Hamas as an excuse, except to avoid addressing Biden’s role in mass starvation of civilians?

            I’m not the one making excuses. I voted for Harris. Remember the travel bans early in Trump’s first presidency targeting Muslims? Remember his deportation rhetoric. I wouldn’t be surprised to find some folks deported to Gaza. I don’t wish this on them, but that is a possibility.

            The US isn’t attacking Gaza, Israel is. What is Biden’s role exactly? Providing over 1 billion in aid to Gaza?

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              Don’t insult my intelligence; the US provides nearly all the weapons Israel is using on Gaza. Unlike Ukraine they are receiving them with zero preconditions and Biden bypassed Congress twice to give them more weapons despite the documented war crimes. Blinken signed off on bombing aid convoys into Gaza and was caught lying to Congress about it. Biden himself scolded Russia and Iran by saying that anyone who gives weapons is equally guilty for the civilian deaths as the army that uses them on civilians. A billion dollar pledge is useless if none of the aid is allowed in and the aid convoys are bombed.

              Biden made a choice to block ceasefires and put his trust in Netanyahu who was a known liar.

              But this is all a digression; you’re STILL glossing over all of Biden’s failures with “but Trump!” The election is over, you can feel free to criticize Biden now for his screwups. It’s probably the best time to since everyone was saying that we had to shut up about our problems because it was helping Trump earlier.

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    11 days ago

    If you voted for stein, trump or stayed home…

    The hardest thing to accept is that, regardless, good Americans are still going to fight for those in the Muslim community if this administration gets in. You voted for this, indirectly or directly, and they are salivating at the pending opportunity to put you in camps, regardless of your actual background of citizenship, because you “Look foreign!” and that scares them.

    How can you be such poor students of (extremely recent) history? I sincerely hope that we don’t see the worst of what’s possible, but make no mistake, you’ve made the wrong bet and very likely voted for your own downfall.

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      No. Just no. Stop attacking the voters! There is no reason when the fall lies on the DMC for running a shitty campaign. If we keep agrueing on who to blame it only validates the rights assumption that we’re elitist.

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    Doubtful.

    Trump won Michigan with 2,804,647 votes. Harris had 2,724,029 votes. Stein got 44,697 votes.

    Most Arab Americans and Muslim-Americans said they would vote for Harris or Stein. We don’t have data yet on turnout for the community. And honestly, this failure is on Harris. Her campaign refused to allow Palestinian-Americans to endorse her at DNC despite Harris giving the microphone to Liz Cheney and others on stage. She didn’t meet with any Muslim community people in PA until the last week of the entire campaign. Biden detoured his campaign stops to skip Arab neighborhoods in Michigan completely and wouldn’t apologize for his anti-Palestinian remarks. Harris could have won those voters back by saying that she didn’t agree with Biden and that Palestinian lives are also just as important but she chose not to. Hillary Clinton thought that throwing Muslims under the bus would get a few republicans to flip to her and Harris thought the same.

      • It was all different swing States. She was a phone canvasser and was recording the results of all her calls. I’m sure there’s some selection bias in that it’s not completely representative.

        I’m just saying, you know how after the election search results spiked for “Did Joe Biden drop out?”

        People online commenting on politics on purpose aren’t the average voters. Most people have no fucking clue what’s going on with anything, or even how anything works. Those people literally don’t care about Gaza and probably haven’t even heard about it.

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    I hope they (and other groups that think Trump will help them) had fun shooting themselves in the foot. Now we all get to suffer for it. Thanks for that.

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    years later we will be seeing documentaries on how Trump or Elon paid someone or used their own means to target these communities to sway their votes. now we know why Elon got xhitter.

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    Well that’s pretty darn interesting of actually true.

    I mean it is what it is but I better not hear a peep about any of the things they will regret in the decision to dick all of us over.

    May they remember that the dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed.

    Especially if they ordered from the Trump enterprises.

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    I mean even if Gaza didn’t happen I feel like a voting bloc primarily built around a religious group wasn’t going to be firmly held by the Democrats anyway tbh.

    Just like a lot of Latinos this year, they’re happy to vote for Trump because they “got mine” and aren’t concerned about deportation, etc.