Fuck the liberal hegemonic order. Even if a liberal hegemony is theoretically “better” or “preferable” to other hypothetical hegemonic orders, that is not a justification for the existence of hegemony itself. Many of us who want to see the liberal hegemonic order abolished want that not because we want to see it replaced with another hegemonic order (like, for instance, a Marxist-Leninist/Maoist hegemonic order), but because we want hegemony itself abolished, and replaced with a democratic order, in which the nations of the world collaborate, cooperate, and strive for peaceful coexistence.
Yeah, but what are the chances, the “liberal hegemonic order” will be replaced by anything less repressive and authoritarian? Do you think a world dominated by Russia and China will be better?
Like I said, I want hegemony itself to be abolished and replaced with a democratic order. I don’t want a world dominated by any nation. I want the order based on domination to be replaced with an order based on democracy.
A noble goal. But how are you going to achieve that?
I have no idea. It might not even be possible. I simply wanted to clarify what it is people like me desire for the world.
We can want a pony, but we are not going to get one without a plan.
I am not a leader or strategist. I wouldn’t know how to begin to construct the plan necessary to achieve what I’ve outlined, assuming such a plan could ever actually exist.
I mean, I agree in principle. I just don’t see how this position translates into anything actionable.
It doesn’t. It’s not possible. I’m a silly dreamer, nothing more.
What’s is a “liberal hegemonic order”? Because what we already had was a democracy, and we were making grassroots efforts to make it better. Was it perfect? Fuck no, but at least we had a chance to make things better. States were brining in Ranked Choice Voting, other states were enshrining human rights where it wasn’t always guaranteed. Smashing it all down and starting over with a Christo-fascist authoritarian government is about the dumbest way to “collaborate, cooperate, and strive for peaceful coexistence.” We’re about to get the Christian Taliban with the most powerful military in the world backing it. Trump is about to give our government officials purity tests and will throw out anyone that doesn’t swear to him (literally per P2025), and he’s going to be stacking the government with lackeys. We’re on track for Nazism 2.0.
