This is a good article calling out the true problems with the campaign.
I keep seeing people blame voters, but the only group to blame is the Democratic Party. Parties exist to serve and represent voters, not the other way round.
The Dems failed to address the genuine concerns of their traditional base - primarily the economy - and that left the race open for the Repulicans.
The Democrat message on the economy seemed to basically be “things are not as bad as you think and we’ve already done what was needed”. Instead they focused on abortion and a threat to democracy as the main issues of the election.
Yet for many lower income households, they rent and have been hit doubly hard by inflation. Home owners have been shielded from the rent portion of the cost of living crisis, and experienced less hardship. The dems did not seem to understand that and effectively left the field open for the republicans.
Looking at the numbers, Trump hasn’t significantly grown the Republican vote or if so, it’s a relatively small increase. Yet the Democrat vote is way down on where it was in 2020.
There are lots of other failures on the part of the Dems - allowing Biden to run essentially unchallenged, the leadership aggressively pushing back against concerns about his suitability, Biden waiting until very late to step back and Harris being coronated and having to use Bidens existing campaign. Harris was a decent enough candidate but she was given an impossible task thanks to an out of touch and poorly led party.
The Dems lost this election, rather than Trump winning it.
No, Trump won it. He got votes and those votes were from people who cast them. Yes, democratic party has problems, but the far bigger problem is that enough people voted for Trump when given other options.
Trump won the election because he won the election is a tautological argument. It’s not false, but it elucidates nothing.
It’s wild to me how many excuses people are willing to make for the tens of millions of Americans that actively choose Trump.
I don’t buy this. In Nebraska there was an election between an independent union leader and a career politician. The union leader lost.
The consensus seems to be that people that voted democrat in 2020 voted republican this time because they experienced inflation under Biden that think it was his fault.
People don’t vote for numbers they vote for stories. They vote for their feelings. Do they feel like they’re in a better place today and they were the four years ago. Do they feel like they’re better off financially. Do they feel like the economy is stronger. And the answer for most of us is no of course not. So regardless of the reasons for that they’re going to vote that way. That’s just a harsh reality of elections and economics.
I agree. Which is why I don’t believe the narrative that Harris lost because she didn’t go far enough left. Even though I wish our politicians would. I think too many voters don’t feel the same way.
They were unwilling to go hard attack on the people setting prices.
Biden was calling out price gouging throughout his presidency.
Harris said she would make billionaires pay their fair share and they literally bought votes for Trump.
Scapegoating democrats for going up against the billionaire class seems like exactly what the billionaires would want.
I hear you, but I think they didn’t go hard enough. They needed to make noise about how they are going to XYZ to fix prices. I know they said it, I’m saying they needed to say it more, louder, and drop some of the other stuff.
Meanwhile the billionaires convinced the voters that democrats were responsible for inflation and spun “tax increases for billionaires” into “tax increases for everyone”.
And polls show that voters were most motivated by inflation.
I don’t know if it’s that she didn’t go far enough left in so much as she didn’t go and far enough left on certain issues. As odd as it might seem there is a populist movement in the Republican Party. They do appeal to the working class for some odd reason. Their policy decisions don’t always reflect it but their rhetoric oftentimes does. After all a number of Republican states passed fairly economically Progressive ballot measures.
It seems to me that she had a hard fight to win by saying she would tax billionaire their fair share. I’m sure they were all working together to pull strings against her.
Frankly I didn’t see nearly as much of that as I expected. I don’t think she was pushing all that hard to be honest with you. However I was speaking more to labor issues. To healthcare. She was certainly to the right of Joe Biden on all three of those issues I’d say. Lord knows she was far to the right on him when it comes to Consumer Protections issues. Her cow-towing to her billionaire donors and preparing to push Lena Khan out show that pretty strongly I think. Most voters heard her and smelled a rat.
She laid out a plan to handle price gouging and tax billionaires. She didnt seem left or right of Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHnJp0oyOxs
Well we’re living here in Allentown
And they’re closing all the factories down
Out in Bethlehem, they’re killing time
Filling out forms, standing in lineWell we’re waiting here in Allentown
For the Pennsylvania we never found
For the promises our teachers gave
If we worked hard, if we behavedEvery child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
But something happened on the way to that place
They threw an American flag in our faceWell I’m living here in Allentown
And it’s hard to keep a good man down
But I won’t be getting up todayThat was over forty years ago, and ever since Bill Clinton’s triangulation, the Democratic party has only further abandoned the working class. Gore, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Biden, and Harris are all of this unbroken neoliberal Clintonian dynasty.
Have you seen this clip? Michael Moore on the Democratic party: https://youtu.be/MVnIatb7iVI
no no, I think it’s really that she wasn’t horribly racist enough. really, it’s that she didn’t tack hard enough to the right. she should’ve promised to build two walls, one on canada too. she should’ve promised to kill the palestinians even faster, actually, she should’ve resurrected the corpse of kissinger and then sent him to michigan to explain why they needed to die. THAT will solve things.
How many hoops are we going to jump through to avoid admitting complete and total defete??? Word it how you want but trump won, trump won big. Let’s move the fuck on already and keep sone dignity unlike them
Edit: yikes, yall are pathetic and im ashamed to be affiliated with the democratic party. Just fucking wow man
This is like gameplay analysis mode atm, the lessons need to be learned and strategies need to be changed.
I’m actually thinking we might need to be throwing dignity out the window. It’s just being used as traditionalism to keep the status quo much like we’ve seen with feudalism. A progressive movement should’ve been continued after the DNC chicanery in 2016, dignity be damned. I’ve watched Bernie bend the knee to a left-wing party that’s been completely overtaken by big interests, if they didn’t play fair he shouldn’t have endorsed and went back independent immediately (it’s all speculative though).
I do fear that jumping through too many hoops will land the democrats back to square one and they’ll just continue the same path (Desi Lydic did a good bit on the daily show about the media’s many conflicting critiques).
Bruh. You just Jumped through like 6 hoops to explain what exactly??
Is there something I said that’s confusing to you? Do I need to repeat it in different words for you to be able to carry on a conversation? Are you legitimately confused and can’t follow along or just trolling? You definitely have a different conversation style (I’m guessing young and haven’t engaged in long-form discussion before, maybe even strictly on mobile so it’s hard for you to type at length).
If you really don’t understand and you aren’t just being a dick I’ll actually reply but you just seem hostile as fuck.
Fuck outta here.
