“We have more important things to worry about than your concerns, so stfu and vote for our people so we can go back to ignoring your concerns.”
That’s more or less what you’re saying here, and what the Democrat Party has been saying this entire election cycle. Anyone who is having conflicting feelings, regardless of where they may be coming from, is insulted, condescended to, or outright attacked because… They have concerns they want addressed?
Explain to me how that is unreasonable? And if it is unreasonable, I would then ask, why should they care about what you want? I pointed out on another thread, but if both parties are going to ignore you and kill your friends/family, and the only thing the people you thought were supposed to be allies will say to you is “Get the fuck over it, it’s not important enough, etc…”
Well, put yourself in their shoes, and ask yourself why the fuck you would care what happens then? If your family is going to be genocided either way, and one party is going to be worse, but the end result is the same… Why do you care? Your allies don’t care, so why should you?
The Republican party may be a party filled with hate, racism, misogyny, facism, and every type of cultural phobia there is, but they at least support each other. The Democrats are condescending and entitled, particularly towards their own constituents. Then they wonder why they always lose.
And I give Harris credit, to be clear, for coming out and saying there will be contingencies on weapons shipments to Israel should she win, and I hope she carries through on that (even if it’s just political showmanship). But if she loses, I will have zero kid gloves or sympathy towards anyone who didn’t think Palestine was important enough.
When people show you who they are, believe them, and the fact that Harris: won’t commit to stopping arms sales to Israel, just had Bill Clinton tell a crowd of Muslim and Arab Americans that Israel has to kill civilians because of Hamas, and rejected pro-Palestinian group’s requests to have Palestinian-American speakers at the DNC…
Sure seems the Democrats don’t like Muslims/Arabs much when you look at it from their perspective.
Well, if you’re not white, Trump’s party is not going to help you either. Have you even been watching the news these last eight years? How do you think fascism works?
This is exactly what I was pointing out, dude. You asked how there was a debate, I showed you the debate from the perspective who may be having it themselves (I’m not Palestinian, btw, I’m a white trans veteran, so I don’t need a lecture on fascism or any of your moral grandstanding, thank you).
Your response is to immediately dismiss all of it.
Have you even been watching the news these last eight years?
Have you been following the voiced and vocal outcry from the Arab community via their protest vote movement? Or any other actions taken to silence the voices of anyone who tries to publicly bring attention to the Palestinian Genocide? Actions taken against them during a Democrat presidential administration on both college campuses and public and private forums?
This is clearly something that is very important to people, and you’re doing exactly what I pointed out:
Condescending to me as if I don’t understand the two options, while refusing to understand why this demographic may not want to vote for a party that’s demanding their vote while giving them the middle finger.
I’m not attacking you, and I’m voting Harris, and will continue to encourage others to do so as well. But to act like “tRuMp BaD FaScIsM” is enough for the Democrats to keep riding on is delusional. If our issues don’t matter, what difference does it make what form of government fucks us over?
“We have more important things to worry about than your concerns, so stfu and vote for our people so we can go back to ignoring your concerns.”
That’s more or less what you’re saying here, and what the Democrat Party has been saying this entire election cycle. Anyone who is having conflicting feelings, regardless of where they may be coming from, is insulted, condescended to, or outright attacked because… They have concerns they want addressed?
Explain to me how that is unreasonable? And if it is unreasonable, I would then ask, why should they care about what you want? I pointed out on another thread, but if both parties are going to ignore you and kill your friends/family, and the only thing the people you thought were supposed to be allies will say to you is “Get the fuck over it, it’s not important enough, etc…”
Well, put yourself in their shoes, and ask yourself why the fuck you would care what happens then? If your family is going to be genocided either way, and one party is going to be worse, but the end result is the same… Why do you care? Your allies don’t care, so why should you?
The Republican party may be a party filled with hate, racism, misogyny, facism, and every type of cultural phobia there is, but they at least support each other. The Democrats are condescending and entitled, particularly towards their own constituents. Then they wonder why they always lose.
And I give Harris credit, to be clear, for coming out and saying there will be contingencies on weapons shipments to Israel should she win, and I hope she carries through on that (even if it’s just political showmanship). But if she loses, I will have zero kid gloves or sympathy towards anyone who didn’t think Palestine was important enough.
When people show you who they are, believe them, and the fact that Harris: won’t commit to stopping arms sales to Israel, just had Bill Clinton tell a crowd of Muslim and Arab Americans that Israel has to kill civilians because of Hamas, and rejected pro-Palestinian group’s requests to have Palestinian-American speakers at the DNC…
Sure seems the Democrats don’t like Muslims/Arabs much when you look at it from their perspective.
Well, if you’re not white, Trump’s party is not going to help you either. Have you even been watching the news these last eight years? How do you think fascism works?
This is exactly what I was pointing out, dude. You asked how there was a debate, I showed you the debate from the perspective who may be having it themselves (I’m not Palestinian, btw, I’m a white trans veteran, so I don’t need a lecture on fascism or any of your moral grandstanding, thank you).
Your response is to immediately dismiss all of it.
Have you been following the voiced and vocal outcry from the Arab community via their protest vote movement? Or any other actions taken to silence the voices of anyone who tries to publicly bring attention to the Palestinian Genocide? Actions taken against them during a Democrat presidential administration on both college campuses and public and private forums?
This is clearly something that is very important to people, and you’re doing exactly what I pointed out:
Condescending to me as if I don’t understand the two options, while refusing to understand why this demographic may not want to vote for a party that’s demanding their vote while giving them the middle finger.
I’m not attacking you, and I’m voting Harris, and will continue to encourage others to do so as well. But to act like “tRuMp BaD FaScIsM” is enough for the Democrats to keep riding on is delusional. If our issues don’t matter, what difference does it make what form of government fucks us over?