• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Again, none of these quotes state concrete action that Russia is threatening, and that’s the key difference between those and the concrete statements Russia made regarding F-16s. The statement in the latter case said that areas of deployment of F-16s would be considered valid targets whether they’re in Ukraine or outside of Ukraine. So, if the west ever does decide to deploy F-16s outside of Ukraine we’ll see what whether Russia responds as they said they would.

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      5 months ago

      Don’t avoid the question. Is the source I linked to accurate, or not? You claimed you looked at many sources and that they contained lies about statements Russia never made, yet just by looking at the first two in order that does not seem to be the case.

      So, are the quoted in the linked source accurate or not? If yes, let’s take a look at the next source, and then the next, etc. until we find one of the many you claim contains false information.

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        5 months ago

        I didn’t avoid the question. From the very start my point was that none of the sources talking about red lines being crossed link back to any actual red lines being articulated by Russia. The two examples you gave confirm my point, you get that right?

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          No, because the sources do talk about red lines. The quotes even include those specific words.

          Now that you realized the sources are actually OK you start redefining what red lines are, even going against what the Russian state itself considers, and even calls, red lines?

          Again, please answer the question, are the quotes ftom the article accurate or not. It’s a yes or no question. Discussing is much easier if we can establish what is actually being disputed. We can move on the other questions later.