• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I didn’t care for her, but Clinton I would say had more than basic competence, though she didn’t really have much charisma, is pretty unlikable, forced out Bernie Sanders, chose a completely forgettable running mate, was running as an establishment candidate in a “change” election, and has a blatant desire for power. It all worked against her, though she did still win the popular vote. Still fairly competent though.

    I would argue Harris is in a similar situation as Clinton, though she apparently had the sense to at least pick someone more likable than herself and her almost invisible tenure as VP actually may work to her advantage. Otherwise, she’s not incredibly charismatic on her own and could be in trouble at the debate with Trump, though his elderly, stroke-addled brain may help her out.

    But if it gets into the same sort of thing like in his debate with Biden, where Trump is just throwing out BS bombs left and right, and all Kamala does is just uselessly flail around trying to address his BS points one by one, I think she’ll be in trouble. She needs to cut through the BS and present herself as the adult in the room, and make Trump seem infantile and ridiculous.

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      3 months ago

      All agreed. The Clinton’s are political animals, best of the best at the game, but Hilary doesn’t share her husband’s over-the-top charisma. She works best behind the scenes, not on camera kissing babies.

      And this hilarious meme hit far too close to home.

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        3 months ago

        Literally been screaming this since her time as SoS… Hill-Dawg should have run in NY’s bluest blueberry of a US House district and then taken the reigns from Pelosi in 2022. She’s masterful at running the inner party show… she got that “do it or I’ll burn your house down” energy so few people have (liken to LBJ, Pelosi, Cave Johnson, etc).

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      3 months ago

      Clinton’s fatal flaw was picking about the worst campaign manager of all time, who did things like relying almost exclusively on software based calculations and stopped polling voters in early September.