• TimeNaan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Anarchism is against hierarchy and for horizontal organization. Not disorder. In the comic these are anarchists (they are punk rock representations of 1800s anarchist philosophers Bakunin, Kropotkin and Proudhon) and they are acting according to the principles of anarchism, as anarchists do irl.

    “Governing over something” is not the core of the issue that anarchism is against. It’s hierarchy. You can have a horizontally, democratically organized collective “govern over”, or in other words manage something. They will just do it through collective decision making with no rulers or subordinates.

    OP here is trying to invent a new word for what they see in the comic because they don’t understand what anarchism means.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Anarchism is against hierarchy and for horizontal organization. Not disorder. In the comic these are anarchists (they are punk rock representations of 1800s anarchist philosophers Bakunin, Kropotkin and Proudhon) and they are acting according to the principles of anarchism, as anarchists do irl.

      You people really should read up on the ideologies you think you support.

      From the link that the earlier user politely provided.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

      Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is against all forms of authority and seeks to abolish the institutions

      All forms of authority.

      Synarchism generally means “joint rule” or “harmonious rule”.

      They will just do it through collective decision making with no rulers or subordinates.

      Ah, so for every single decision, everyone has to gather up and vote? Okay, then you can’t have a society as big as in the comic, because everyone would waste the time required to actually produce shit to sit voting on things that don’t matter. And what if they disagree? Who solves it? Who enforces the will of the majority when people disagree on these futile votes?

      Nah, for a society larger than a family, there’s going to be persons responsible for dealing with that. Ie appointed people who will govern a matter. Hmm I wonder what a person like that could be called…

      Read even basic philosophy, Rousseau, Hobbes, anything. Just churlish suppositions you make, imo.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          Not really, no.

          More like arguing that Satan is a central figure for LaVeyan satanism, ie The Church of Satan (Satanic Temple is the more… rational one of the two, although both value reason.)

          And while neither believe in an actual Satan in the Christian sense, they do value him as a symbolic adversary.

          So it definitely wouldn’t be wrong to say that the Church of Satan has people who “worship” Satan.

          Nice try but no dice. Also, theology is far less objective than “what is the prescriptive meaning of anarchy” which isn’t s terribly hard question to answer.

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              So let’s go back to what the most basic information on this we have: the Wiki article. Which begins:

              Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is against all forms of authority and seeks to abolish the institutions it claims maintain unnecessary coercion and hierarchy, typically including the state and capitalism.

              So where exactly doesn’t it mean these things…?