• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I did some quick math to see how overexagirated prices were for preeschool.

    Average pay here is (in EUR gross) 2400 + 200 lunch/transportation cost. So the average worker costs a company ~3000 (so called gross-gross as each company has to contribute taxes per worker).

    Given an adult/child ratio of 1 : 8 and a school of 80 kids. The teachers would cost 30k EUR in salaries alone. This comes to 375 EUR per child. Add 80 for food and its 455 eur. No maintenance costs or room for profit here. Lets round it to 500 EUR for that.

    If the ratio is 1 : 10. Its 75 EUR cheaper.

    As mentioned the average sallary is 2400 gross, this comes down to 1500 net. 500 EUR is one third of 1500 EUR. I obviously didnt use real teacher wages and used the average, didnt account for maintenance workers, heating, accounting or anything else. The prices actually sound reasonable but are a little lower due to subsidies.

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    For daycare:

    My local area costs $600-1000 per month, depending on the age of the child ($1k for infants, $600 for pre-school). If we assume 8 hours/day, 21 days/week on average (~250 working days per year). So each child costs $3.5-6/hr. Recommended staff to child ratio is one per 3-8 children, depending on age. If it’s only infants, maximum possible wage (assuming everything else is free) is $18/hr (3 * $6/hr). If it’s only pre-school age, the maximum possible wage is $28/hr (8 * $3.50/hr). Preschoolers will need more space than infants, so I imagine a large share of that difference in cost is for space, food, and activities.

    So my guess is that people providing childcare make $10-15/hr, maybe a little more if they are overseeing a newer caregiver. This cost is already high for workers, so I really don’t think salaries can go much higher without a fundamental change in how care is provided.

    I can’t speak to nursing homes though, because anything touching medical care is incredibly hard to find numbers for.