• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Unfortunately 1,300 still “so far”. People are ready to give him another crack at it.🤮

    • lorty@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      Why are saying that as if the dems aren’t in power right now?

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        1 month ago

        Because:

        A) You didn’t read the article, and thusly come in with your usual “democrats bad” without realizing that most of the reason these people haven’t been reunited is nobody knows (because there are no records or incorrect records) with whom they should be re-united

        B) We have elections in this country and “dems being in power” doesn’t mean that they’ll stay there…because they’ll leave after having lost an election.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        The Dems don’t have control of every branch of government, so there’s nothing they can do. They’re powerless. Fortunately, they’re working hard to cultivate a bipartisan coalition of influential figures, such as Jeff Flake, John Negroponte, Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, and Dick Cheney. Together, we’re confident that they can retake the White House and govern from the political center, rather than deviating to the extremes like during the Donald Trump and Joe Biden administrations.

        By bringing neoconservative Republicans into the big Democrat tent, we can achieve a homogeneous and irrefutable understanding of how to govern. This is the only way to reunite those 1,300 children with their families. And if you suggest to the contrary, you’re hurting Kamala Harris in her campaign to protect American democracy from a tyrant who might take power by cheating his way to victory.

        So go out there and vote. And yell at anyone who doesn’t vote or votes for the wrong candidate. Anyone who doesn’t vote for Harris is responsible for those orphaned children. It’s their fault. Don’t forget it.

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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    If something happened to my kid, and I was never reunited with them? Never given contact with them, never provided communication with their care takers?

    You can bet violence would be the inevitable outcome.

    1300 children havent been reunited because of incomplete documentation - that was by design - and now the government has the responsibility to protect the children from nefarious parties and verify identities of non-us citizens and their parents?

    That’s the parents of 1300 children who are slowly losing their wits because they sought safe refuge from a country where if they didn’t escape, death was already inevitable.

    Now, what do we all know about Facists? They need and enemy. Their entire existence is based around having an enemy. It’s easy to point to powerless minority groups and stoke nationalism through that, but invasions don’t occur to save lives or conquer land. They occur to give purpose to iron fist policies.

    Especially useful is when the Enemies attack you. Unfortunately for the Facists the iron fisted policies enacted after 9/11 had the consequence of restricting the effectiveness of already radicalized groups, reducing their numbers and the usefulness of the Enemy. So what did Trump do? Instead of working on producing false flag attacks which is a hard sell to even his most devoted followers, why not create home grown enemies!

    The absolute sick fucks they are. The people I see with a Trump sign on their lawn show me how many of these people there are. The way they dehuminize others really starts to make me think that there is an actual physiological difference between them and the rest of humanity.

    They are fine with physical and psychological torture of humans. I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out they have reduced, damaged, or lack entirely the part of their brains that should house empathy.

    • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Every single sign I see, I mentally note them as a monster. Nothing will change my mind on this. I have brought up these kids and the despicable camps they made even recently to my peers and just get a shrug. This whole thing is nuts and I will never forgive our current government for not making this right, as inconsequential of a detail this is for most people. This shit happened on our own damn soil, concentration/internment camp style. That fucking monster did it, but what about the last 4 years? Did anyone even try to help the people we tortured? Did anyone even care?

      The worst part? A lot of these kids will not even be able to remember or identify their parents at this point. Hell, their parents might not recognize them. You basically need DNA tests at this point, and if you are not their biological parent, you are probably screwed.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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        You know what, I hadn’t even thought about that.

        1300 kids have parents trying to claim them. There is no way they couldn’t have significantly reduced those numbers through maternity/paternity testing. Which doesn’t take that long to do anymore.

        The ones you’d be left with are the guardians , probably aunts/uncles or older cousins and siblings. Siblings you could probably test for.

        At that point, what can you do? Even if we put everyone involved in separating the children in jail for the rest of their lives all the way up, it will never reunite the families they separated.

        The saddest part to me is that it often makes me think that people somehow forget what it’s like being a child. Like they just purposefully forgot their childhood, not because of trauma, but because they deemed it a hindrance to hold on to.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    Elián González is now an anti-USA politian in Cuba. And quite frankly, I don’t blame him. It’s pretty easy to see what will happen when you force a child to go through tramatic events resulting in the loss of family.

    And the trump administration is 16-20 years after the Elián González situation happened. They could already see the results happen in real time by that point.

    Long after this post is forgotten about by everybody, including me, we’re going to see some of these 1300 children today become anti-usa voices when they become adults.

    And they’ll have fully justified reasons for thinking that way.

    • PorradaVFR@lemmy.world
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      Elian lost his mother coming here and was living with relatives in Miami. His Cuban father (rightfully, in my opinion) wanted him back. His family here reasonably argued that his mother’s last act was to bring him to the US and hence he should remain.

      The legal battle and ultimate decision he was to be sent back traumatized an innocent kid, but it’s not the same. The US was in the middle of a family fight where both sides were asserting viable arguments and the kid was a pawn. I don’t see that being a US policy mistake.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        I was refering more to the part where federal agents breached his miami home, with him being about 6 years old, and having an assault riffle pointed at him as agents screamed orders and made his crying face one of the top news stories of the year.

        That’s the part I was referring to. Not a legal court battle.

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          They weren’t surrendering the kid, what exactly did you expect?

          There were people screaming that they wouldn’t give him back and would fight anyone who came to take him.

          It’s the south Florida Cuban community, surprised you have this position.

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            Show me another case of federal agents breaching the door, a team of agents with assault rifles, using helicopters with spotlights, all in the dead of night.

            This wasn’t a case of CPS shows up at 2pm with a cop as backup. This was more like a swat team terrorist hideout raid.

            This wasn’t about taking a kid back and bring them to their new legal guardian. This was about sending a message to EVERYONE that illegals aren’t welcome here.

            • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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              This wasn’t a state/local issue, and IIRC the state said they wouldn’t help hand the kid back.

              This was a case where the federal government was enforcing federal law, and the state stepped aside, who do you think the feds send when they have to enforce federal law, andy griffith?

    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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      Pretty much every politician is anti US in Cuba. It’s a one party system and loyalty is the price for a paycheck.

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    They will never find them again barring getting lucky with both the parents and the kids picking the right DNA testing company. At which point that company will sell its data to the U.S. government.