• RedditSucks88@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    So we can say the same thing about climate change, COVID, etc.

    You can go have fun living in a communist country though. God speed.

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      3 months ago

      So basically everyone who is down voting me like an idiot is in support of communism?

      I was saying there is proof climate change and COVID were real, and there is proof that communism is bad.

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      3 months ago

      So we can say the same thing about climate change, COVID, etc.

      We cannot.

      You can go have fun living in a communist country though. God speed.

      Thankfully, the US will collapse eventually, and Socialism will grow exponentially once Imperialism as a function of developed Monopoly Capitalism is ended.

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      3 months ago

      There is verifiable evidence of climate change that anyone could go and recreate for themselves so that is not the same thing.

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          3 months ago

          I’m not saying communism is good or bad but there has never existed a real form of communism to even test. If one points to Russia as an example then they have to explaine how Russia was supposed to be classless yet it had clearly defined classes of enormous economic disparity… in direct violation with the very foundation of communism.

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            3 months ago

            The USSR was Communist by ideology, Socialist in structure. It was attempting to build Communism. The USSR did have bourgeois elements, especially as it liberalized closer to its dissolution, but this alone does not make it “direct violation with the very foundation of Communism.”

            I encourage you to read Marx, Engels, and Lenin, and not just wikipedia definitions of Communism.

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              3 months ago

              You failed to mention rife and extreme corruption. High class wealth disparity coupled with corruption… how could this ever be used to treat the validity of communism? Personally I do not believe it can ever exist. Humans wouldn’t allow it thanks to human nature.

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                3 months ago

                High class wealth disparity

                Compared to what? Real r/SocialismIsCapitalism moment.

                Humans wouldn’t allow it thanks to human nature.

                Say the line Bart!
                It’s human nature.
                \o/ \o/ \o/

                These comments are rife with capitalist realism.

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                3 months ago

                The USSR was far less corrupt than the previous Tsarist system and the future Capitalist Russian Federation. Additionally, there was far lower wealth disparity in the USSR than in Tsarist Russia or the Capitalist Russian Federation, as shown in this figure:

                how could this ever be used to treat the validity of communism?

                Because life expectancy doubled, the USSR went from pre-industrial feudalism to space in half a century, literacy rates skyrocketed, home ownership skyrocketed, healthcare and university-level education were free, and the USSR had more vacation days than the US, with lower retirement ages. Read Blackshirts and Reds if you don’t believe me.

                Personally I do not believe it can ever exist. Humans wouldn’t allow it thanks to human nature.

                This is idealism, and contradicts history and science. What is considered “Human Nature” changes alongside technological development and Mode of Production.

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                  3 months ago

                  You still cannot compare testing the validity of communism to testing the validity of climate change. Which is the whole reason for my initial comment.

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                    3 months ago

                    What, precisely, do you contest in my comment? AES states have largely made great strides in improving conditions for the Working Class. This is provable with metrics and data. Additionally, you didn’t respond to the bit on Human Nature, which I hope means you changed your mind but somehow I doubt that.