• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    “But… but… communism had never been tried!”

    “That wasn’t real communism!”

    “Read the theory!”

    “Communism is the solution to climate change.”— proceeds to industrialise Aral Sea leading to shrinkage; and built the Three Gorges Dam leading to the massive deforestation and loss of biodiversity in flooded lands

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      Communism, the movement, has been tried and is continued to be tried. Communism, the end status of a global worker Republic devoid of class antagonisms, has never been reached. These are completely acceptable and compatible statements.

      This brings us to the third: read theory so you don’t think this is some “gotcha” anymore.

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          Large increases in home ownership, literacy rates, life expectancy, democratization, and quality of life as opposed to previous conditions.

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            Large home ownership with poor quality.

            Literacy rates achieved just as in democratic country.

            Yes, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is democratic. “It’s in the name.”

            Quality of life: you have to wait seven years to receive a car and long bread lines.

            Life expectancy: shorter if the centralised authorirty did not artificially create famine and don’t send you to gulag or re-education camp

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              AES states are democratic. Study the structures themselves.

              The quality of life was far higher than previously, and continues to improve.

              AES states solved famines.

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                Communist states are just as democratic as Islamic Republic of Iran. You can support any candidates as long as they are approved by the ruling one-party.

                You can study the theory of the structure but then ignore the empirical evidence.

                The quality of life in communist states is so great that more people emigrated from it than immigrated.

                Communism solved famines after it killed millions. Fewer people, fewer mouths to feed.

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                  You need to stop repeating US state propaganda and actually study AES and Marxist theory. Quality of life improved over time, greatly so, and most former-soviets say they are worse off now than in the USSR.

                  Famines were commonplace in Russia and China before they became Socialist, then they had their last major famines before stabilizing production and ending famine.

                  Read Blackshirts and Reds.

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                    Famines only stopped after decentralising agricultural production and even liberalising the economy. That being said, China today is communist in name only. The only communist country experiencing food shortages, if not famine, is North Korea.

                    No need for theory when empirical evidence is clear as day. Stop repeating communist propaganda and see reality without turning a blind eye .

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              I especially love that it had to be split out to differentiate the latin american regime changes. They may as well just place a big H1 heading stating “THE U.S. IS EVIL”

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              the U.S. performed at least 81 overt and covert known interventions in foreign elections from 1946 to 2000

              the Soviet Union and Russia engaged in 36 interventions in foreign elections from 1946 to 2000

              2.25 times as many interventions, and many of them were wars no where close to US land, while many of the USSR ones listed are directly related to defeating the Nazis and Imperial Japan in WW2.

              During World War II, the Soviet Union helped overthrow many puppet regimes of Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan, including in East Asia and much of Europe. Soviet forces were also instrumental in ending the rule of Adolf Hitler over Germany.

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        Do you have any sources on this aria sea and three gorges dam business?

        Feigns to never heard about this “business” and asked for “source”. Like Tianamen right?