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      She’s not a threat, she’s running a spoiler campaign to siphon votes. She’s deliberately exploiting a system to affect an outcome.

      That’s like me showing up outside your house and job and plastering “UniversalMonk wants to diddle your kids” posters everywhere. Whether it’s true or not is irrelevant if someone believes the bullshit and subscribes to the idea.

      Being a threat would actually take effort to run a real campaign with real ideas.

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        She’s deliberately exploiting a system to affect an outcome.

        Then that sounds like Democrats think she’s a threat. If she wasn’t a threat, all of that would be a non-issue. I mean, they have spent money on new ads against her. If they didn’t think she was a thread, they wouldn’t have done that.

        And to your point, if you did that to me with your signs, I would definitely view you as a threat. Regardless of your motivation or the falsehood.

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      She’s fucking siphoning votes away from the candidate closest to her supposed views, in a close election where the concept of democracy is at stake. Beyond-obviously. You think you just can just handwave facts away but you never will succeed at that with your campaign of bullshit. You want to imply the threat is that she can win which is laughable. Pretty much all of us see who Shill Stein is.

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        She’s fucking siphoning votes away from the candidate closest to her supposed views

        “Closest” is doing a lot of work there.

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            She’s kind of ideologically incoherent and I’m certainly no supporter of hers, but she is far to the left of both of them.

            Hitler-lite is closer to her position than Hitler-delux, but “closer” is doing a lot of work there.

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              I don’t understand what point you’re making. My point was clear-- if you actually wanted a small fraction of Stein’s ideas to have a chance, you’d vote for Harris. Lemmy users can pretend all day that spoilers candidates aren’t real but that’s ridiculous, of course they are.

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                Harris is running to the right of Biden in 2020. The point is to emphasize how far she actually is from Stein and that you’re using “closer” in a really loose way to hand-wave the gulf between them. Vote for Harris if you want, but I want you to know you are voting for Hitler-lite to stop Hitler-delux.

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                  I’ve never quite understood this obsession with telling everyone how right wing they are all the time as a singular focus. It’s incredibly unhelpful and annoying. Kamala Harris wants to do some left wing things. America is right wing generally, no one needs you to remind us condescendingly every 45 seconds

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                    I don’t want anyone lying to themselves and thinking Harris isn’t that bad. You, yourself, are trying to soften her image by saying she wants “to do some leftwing things.” That is unhelpful. She wants to do a fascist crackdown on the border. She wants more trade war with China. She wants to give unlimited support to the fascist regime in Israel as it does genocide and pushes us towards WW3. She wants to expand fracking and fossil fuels. She wants to appoint Republicans into her cabinet. She’s dropped opposition to the death penalty. She wants “the most lethal military” in the world. She’s a cop.

                    She’s far to the right of where Biden was in 2020 and no where near Stein. She’s just closer to the center than Trump.

                    If someone says to me “I understand Harris is right-wing and, despite this, will support her to stop Trump” then that’s fine. What annoys me is when people try to apologize for her or ignore how right-wing she actually is compared to even Biden.