• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    This is the kind of leadership he needs to show to convince everyone he’s still viable, but a letter on it’s own is not going to cut it.

    I hear he called in on Morning Joe as well, I need to run that down.

    Edit Found the clip:

    https://youtu.be/8aziuR76Cek

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      I hear he called in on Morning Joe as well, I need to run that down.

      I don’t watch it, but apparently Biden watches it daily to the point it’s like Fox and Friends for trump.

      After the debate the couple who hosts split on what to do. And the one that wasn’t still Biden didn’t show to a taping after.

      There’s been a lot of articles about Morning Joe and Biden recently

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    “We have 42 days to the Democratic Convention and 119 days to the general election,” Biden said in the letter

    Sounds like we got 42 more days to name a candidate…

    Why the fuck are we pretending this is only Biden’s decision though?

    The DNC can nominate anyone they want, and Biden already said he doesn’t care if trump wins.

    So why does Biden get to insist he’s the candidate? Especially when every metric and data point we have, shows Biden won’t be able to pull it off?

    This election is more important than an 81 year olds personal beliefs and if “Lord God” has told him to drop out or not

    Pushing forward with Joe is damn near suicidal at this point.

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      I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, but technically it is entirely up to Biden, and no one else. The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee. Most delegates that will vote for him at the convention, must vote for him. They’re required by state law to vote with the primary’s popular vote. The only way for that to change is for Biden to decide to step aside. Then the delegates would be free to vote however they wanted.

      It’s a messed up and broken system that is hard to call democratic, but internal party politics rarely are. He needs to be the bigger person and step aside. It’s pure hubris at this point for him to think he’s the only human being in a country of 300 million who could beat Trump.

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        The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee.

        That’s not what the DNCs lawyers argued to a judge less than a decade ago…

        You’re assuming the DNC can’t just change their own rules first. Which is what the DNC is currently acting like.

        It’s not true though. They change their own rules all the time.

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          What the DNC lawyers say and what the general public will allow are two different things.

          If Joe doesn’t volunteer to step down, and it looks like he won’t here’s what will happen:

          1. Joe runs and loses.

          2. DNC removes Joe for Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

          3. DNC forces both Joe and Kamala out and they lose because the voters had no say in the process.

          Really, the only way out here is for Joe to die and get replaced by Kamala who then gets the sympathy vote.

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            Yeah, but polls show voters want to replace him…

            If the DNC replaced him, that’s what voters want.

            Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

            I’m linking this too much probably.

            But this podcast changed my mind about her. Still think she’ll be a bad president. But trump is probably the only candidate she can beat, even with the 29% approval rating. After this video I think she can beat trump.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jic_uL3-q4

            If you’re worried Kamala can’t beat Trump, watching the first half of that will make you feel a lot better about her.

            Because honestly, I can’t imagine the DNC let’s anyone else takeover.

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              The polls don’t know what they want and your average voter is a moron. If they asked them “Well, what should we do?” most likely the answer would be “Well, re-run the primary!” not realizing it takes 6 months to run a primary in 50 states+DC.

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                The polls don’t know what they want and your average voter is a moron.

                So you think voters will do a 180 and now be upset Biden is replaced when they’ve been calling for him to be replaced?

                I don’t understand.

                There’s been no waffling in the polls, even in 2020 voters thought Biden’s age was a significant issue.

                They still do, but they used to too.

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                  I do, because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

                  The same way the DNC forced Hillary on everyone in 2016.

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          Why I’m surprised by a candidate saying they’re ok with their felonious opponent winning the election? I’m genuinely curious how you’re genuinely curious that I’m surprised by that.

          I think Biden’s response to the question is being slightly misrepresented, but it’s certainly not the kind of response I’d want to hear, especially as a followup to the debate.

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            Biden ran on a platform of working with the fascists I don’t know why you’re surprised he’s good with them in power.

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    Don’t talk too loudly about Democrats increasing funding for cops, it helps Trump!

    Don’t talk too loudly about Biden bankrolling a genocide, it helps Trump!

    Don’t talk too loudly about the man y’all say will protect us from Trump being too incapacitated to protect us from Trump, it helps Trump!

    It is crazy to try to paint this as drama when you bring up any issues before things get bad, folks will just shout you down anyway. I’ve seen many liberals say they would vote for Biden’s corpse, so what difference does it make if it is someone else with (D) next to their name? You might as well go down swinging than on your knees.

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      Because we’re all relying on historical context. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.

      Democrats funding for cops actually helps democrats reach centrists and independent voters.

      Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.

      Nobody has ever said Biden will ‘protect us from Trump’. Not voting for Trump is what protects us from Trump. Telling people to stick it to the man and vote for someone else is harmful, because it splits the vote.

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        . No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.

        Biden’s current approval rating is 34%…

        What’s the last president with numbers that low he got a second term?

        Like, I don’t think people understand how historically unpopular Biden is. 34% is fucking insane for being the president that followed trump, you can’t get a better set up than being compared to that shitheel.