UPDATE 10/4 6:47 EDT

I have been going through all the comments. THANKS!!! I did not know about the techniques listed, so they are extremely helpful. Sorry for the slow update. As I mentioned below, I got behind with this yesterday so work cut into my evening.

I ran a port scan. The first syntax, -p, brought no joy. The nmap software itself suggested changing to -Pn. That brought an interesting response:

nmap -Pn 1-9999 <Local IP Addr>

Starting Nmap 7.93 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2024-10-04 11:44 BST

Failed to resolve “1-9999”. Nmap scan report for <Local IP Address> Host is up (0.070s latency). All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.0.46 are in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 6.03 seconds Just to be absolutely sure, I turned off my work computer (the only windows box on my network) and reran the same syntax with the same results.

As I read this, there is definitely something on my network running windows that is not showing up on the DHCP.

UPDATE 10/6

I am working through all these suggestions. I am sorry for the slow responses, but I have my hands full with family weekend. I will post more next tomorrow. But I did do one thing that has me scratching my head and wondering if this may be a wild goose chase.

I ran the nmap again per below with a completely fictional IP address within my normal range. It gave the exact same results:

nmap -A -T4 -p- -Pn <Fictional IP>

Starting Nmap 7.93 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2024-10-05 13:36 BST Nmap scan report for <Fictional IP>

Host is up (0.054s latency).

All 65535 scanned ports on <Fictional IP> are in ignored states.

Not shown: 65525 filtered tcp ports (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach)

Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at https://nmap.org/submit/ .

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 182.18 seconds

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
    50·
    2 months ago

    As everyone else has said this is the out of the box default page that comes with Microsoft IIS web server on windows server.

    Though I feel like you’d know if you had a copy of windows server running on your network somewhere—is the IP in your usual network subnet?

    • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
      14·
      2 months ago

      The only windows box on my network is my company laptop. It is on a different IP address than that one.

      It IS in my normal range, but it is NOT listed on my Router’s DHCP client list.

      • 9point6@lemmy.world
        27·
        2 months ago

        Have you recently installed visual studio or are doing any .NET development? It could possibly be a containerised version of IIS

        If you completely turn off your windows device and try to access the IP from another device does it still resolve?

          • 9point6@lemmy.world
            20·
            2 months ago

            Hmm

            I’d maybe try systematically turning any other devices off you think could potentially have the grunt to run windows server in a container or VM.

            Do you have a Mac/Linux machine handy? If you run arp -a in one terminal and ping the unusual IP in another, that should give you a corresponding MAC address for the device. You can then look up the MAC address and see if it gives you any more info about the device running it—it might not but you never know. You can use something like https://dnschecker.org/mac-lookup.php

            I guess next you could look at taking that MAC and blocking it in your router control panel and see if anything starts complaining

            • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
              13·
              2 months ago

              I guess next you could look at taking that MAC and blocking it in your router control panel and see if anything starts complaining

              I love the “see who screams” method, my coworkers do not. it’s usually instant.

            • Agent641@lemmy.world
              11·
              2 months ago

              In addition, you might like to do a portscan on that IP address to see if any other ports reaveal something more interesting.

              You can run this in cmd prompt, I think, if nmap is available on your windows machine:

              nmap -p 1-9999 192.168.1.1

              IIS can only run on a windows OS, so it must be a windows physical machine or VM connected to your network.

              • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
                3·
                2 months ago

                Thanks as you can tell, I’m not an expert in any of this.

                I will run this as you described.

                I did the nmap based on input from ChatGPT, it had me do a Ping base scan with nmap. It turned up nothing because that IP address did not return a Ping.

                This has me really curious.

                I’m concerned that the website I opened in Safari on my phone is bringing up a cache on my browser and is not actually live.

                I tried to open it from an iPad and it did not load. Iit still loads off my phone even though I have rebooted everything.

                • biscat@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  2 months ago

                  In case it helps your troubleshooting, ICMP (ping) is typically disabled by default on Windows.

      • oracle@lemmy.world
        42·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, that’s a company server, specifically for the local network group

        It IS in my normal range, but it is NOT listed on my Router’s DHCP client list.

        Why would an internal server change IP all the time? DHCP is for silly things like laptops that turn on and off eleventy times a day

          • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            “home” isn’t descriptive enough. you can run some VERY powerful, in depth stuff if you were so inclined on a “home” network.

            • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
              1·
              2 months ago

              It is more than your average home network. I have a dual WAN router with fiber on each to a different provider. (It is stupid overkill, but my wife and I both work from home and it is important not to be down). I use a pi-hole for ad blocking and unbound for recursive DNS resolution. Most of the devices are wired Ethernet, so I have a bunch of switches and kit to transform coax into fast Ethernet.

              I don’t mess with the firewalls, because that seems like there is a big downside to messing about if you get it wrong. That is all vanilla out of the box.

              • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                2 months ago

                nice. firewalls are easy though, most you can keep vanilla. if you’ve setup a pihole, configuring a firewall is a breeze. most are all in ones also, so the router/gateway/firewall is all one box, just plug in your modem, then it’s a big switch basically with lots of options.

                I run a ubiquiti usg pro 4, first gen and have a 24 port ubiquiti switch and access points. I love it. super advanced users will complain about some things, but ultimately it’s perfectly fine for me without having to get meraki $tuff. I run a few small game servers, a seedbox and some vms, nothing crazy. it moves about 1 TB / day of data from various torrents and nzbs, soulseek. have a micro Dell PC setup as my DNS and pihole, Plex server thousands of movies/shows.

      • mvirts@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        Any device can decide to set it’s own IP so that’s not too far fetched. Have any IoT crap like a water softener or colorful lights or speakers or cameras?

        • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          2 months ago

          I have quite a few smart home devices. But the only “crappy IoT things” is an air purifier that is controlled by phone.

          Unfortunately, I bought quite a few T-Link products before the IC revealed that they are dangerous.

          It is worth exploring.

          Edit TP-Link

          • mvirts@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 months ago

            Ah I have a TP-link router as well, two actually, and Im not monitoring my home network at all. Your experience makes me think I should!

  • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    2 months ago

    The default home page for Microsoft IIS, the web server built into Windows Server (and probably some desktop builds too).

  • Seasm0ke@lemmy.world
    33·
    2 months ago

    Following, I want to know what god awful iot device this is. Refrigerator? Toaster oven? Vibrating dildo? The suspense is killing me

  • dingdongmetacarples@lemmy.world
    21·
    2 months ago

    If you can, power stuff off and check if that web page is still available. Start with any Windows machines. It could be a virtual machine running inside of something else though.

    Edit: here’s how to disable that web server https://superuser.com/a/1377078 . I’d do that on any Windows machines as well.

    • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
      13·
      2 months ago

      I lost my entire morning to this yesterday. I had to work late to catch up. There are some good ideas in here I’m starting on now.

  • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    15·
    2 months ago

    Windows IIS probably from around the time of windows 8 so maybe 2012. Probably running on either windows server 2012 (like exchange, an active directory domain controller, or if you are unlucky sharepoint) or some weirdly configured appliance running windows 8 ish enterprise.

    • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
      7·
      2 months ago

      Thanks. This helps. My work computer is way newer than that. It makes me think it could be networking hardware. I have some kit that’s about that old.

  • Kelly@lemmy.worldEnglish
    122·
    2 months ago

    Home network or corporate?

    Its a windows server, if you are using widows too you can try establishing a RDP connection with Remote Desktop Connection.

      • Kelly@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        Eyeballing the login screen may give some insight, you’re right that its probably unwise to try real creds if you don’t recognize the server.

    • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      2 months ago

      It is a home network. Configured by someone who understands the basics, but is mostly following recipeies rather than having deep knowledge.

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
    9·
    2 months ago

    Depending on your router, it could have a docker setup with Windows on it. I’ve seen some strange shit on cheap routers with far too much processing power and storage.

  • SlothMama@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 months ago

    Get the MAC address from the ARP table, and look up the OIN, should help you determine if it’s virtual or physical, and if physical the type of NIC it’s using.

  • fubarx@lemmy.ml
    8·
    2 months ago

    There was an appliance where the wifi chip was at the end of the power cable, embedded inside the plug. From the outside, you couldn’t really tell. It was there so radiation inside the box couldn’t affect the wireless signal as much.

    I can imagine some genius thinking it’s a good idea to run a server from inside a cable or a connected home appliance.

    • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      2 months ago

      This is interesting. I had to modify it to nmap -A -T4 -p- -Pn <IP>.

      It said the host is up with 0.077 seconds of latency. All 64k ports were scanned with 7 filtered tcp ports (host-unreachable) and the rest (no-response).

      • deltapi@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 months ago

        What’s weird about this is that it should be getting a response from IIS like you showed us in the screenshot.

      • mrbaby@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        77ms of latency is pretty slow. Based off that I’d assume (but not rule out) that it’s not: on the machine you used to run nmap, not on ethernet, probably wifi with a shitty connection

        So, some really dumb, likely irrelevant, questions that might spark an idea:

        • Do you see anything weird connected in the wifi client list? (You said it’s not a dhcp client, but it would still show as a wlan client even if it were static)

        • Are you running a VPN server or using VPN to bridge any networks?

        • You said you’re running dual WAN, are those configured properly and not leaking random internet shit into your LAN?

        • Do you have anything that might be running some kind of out-of-band management system like DRAC on a dell server?

        • What’s your IoT situation?

        • Do you have an on-site NVR for security cams?

        • Did you find the mac? If so what are the first 3 octets? Even if the vendor can’t be found, there’s always the chance some crazy ubernerd is going to recognize it. (If it’s 00:d0:2c or 44:d9:e7 I got ya covered)

        Again, most of those are probably irrelevant, but throwing the thoughts out there :)

  • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    2 months ago

    You don’t have Ethernet over power do you?

    Fun story, I live in a townhome, I had so bizarre network issues going on. Not able to stream to TV etc. finally started unplugging shit. Unplugged the router and saw the computer still happily downloading something WTF! Turns out a neighbor also had Ethernet over power and devices were randomly connecting to their network. Crazy ass shit.

  • Chocrates@lemmy.world
    5·
    2 months ago

    That is IIS, all it means is you are probably talking to a windows server. Is the traffic encrypted? What port is it going to?

  • artvabas@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 months ago

    Is your IP adres same as localhost and you are using Windows Pro, then probably IIS is installed on your device.