It’s been interesting. It’s a real life answer to, “But how did the Nazis gain power?”
It’s also terrifying.
Never again!!!
Been saying this is exactly what will happen with Trump if he loses again. Watch people start backpedaling in the next few years, saying they weren’t really a big fan.
That’s what we expected when Biden won in 2020, then Jan 6 happened and Trump is running again. There’s an implication that things will gradually return to some 2007/2008 status quo (which was also very polarized) and right-wing extremism will simmer down. But there’s no reason for it, no cultural forces for it. Right now there’s no reason to think another Trump or someone worse won’t take up the mantle of owning the libs by grifting the right.
It’s what will happen if he wins again.
They were never big fans. Most Republican voters support Trump for the same reason Democrats support Biden. He’s their colored guy.
The analogy of Trump is insanely ironic as the real analogy should be “Blue MAGA Democrats will come out and say they never supported Biden/Harris” who are doing the current Genocide.
watching this situation play out in real time in my life with pictures and videos all over social media and a majority of people hating it, but looking the other way and supporting leaders who enable it anyways makes me suspect that this his how all genocides takes place; the ruling classes lets it happen and they’re enabled by their own liberals & conservatives masses.
Its a behavioral problem within hierarchical social structures. These things happened long before we had conservatives and liberals. Its an issue with how we structure our societies to “follow those at the top”. When the top wants to murder and pillage, historically they dont have a hard time convincing the lower strata to cooperate.
You’ve hit the nail on the head. A mix of propaganda, whataboutism, and short attention spans creates social intractability. Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky is a good media criticism book that speaks to this if anyone is curious.
i’ve been reluctant to read up on chomsky’s works due to his response about visiting epstein’s child fuck island (tldr: he said it’s none of your business).
it diminishes his legacy and makes me wonder if his work is truly inspired or just high quality rantings of a smart man.
That’s definitely fucked up. That said, the book was a collaboration with another economist, Edward Herman. So it isnt entirely his work. It is still generally used as a text in economics and sociology programs across the world.
i’m aware of it and it’s on my list; just lower in priority due to the epstein update.
Shit. That’s very disappointing. This is my first time hearing about it. Guess I’m glad I listened to Understanding Power through alternative means
never meet your heros, i guess
The Epstein update absolutely made me think less of him as a person, no exceptions should be made for that kind of shit. That said, his work on foreign policy like Manufacturing Consent, On Palestine, and Consequences of Capitalism are all extremely detailed and well done.
Gotta separate the art from the artist. And if you don’t want to give that person money because they’re terrible, pirate their stuff.
I understand when that just isn’t possible, however. I’ll never be able to enjoy The Cosby Show again, for example.
Shout out to Library Genesis and Used Book Copies. Sometimes the audiobook are free on an Audible subscription, but I’m not sure how the money flows for that one
i don’t think anyone doubts that it’s well done.
Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti is basically the same book.
i haven’t heard of this one; thank you
I don’t see why his behaviour should have any correlation with the technical merits of his book. With that said, I haven’t actually read it yet (it’s on my list)
only in that he benefits from it; i think.
That’s dumb. If we find out Einstein was a kid diddler, I’m not gonna start questioning the merits of General Relativity.
about visiting epstein’s child fuck island
When did Chomsky visit Epstein’s island?
i didn’t keep track; try google
All I can find is some meetings where Chomsky had Epstein moving some money around. Nothing about him ever visiting Epstein’s island.
Dodgy enough, but it doesn’t seem Chomsky was ever one of Epstein’s “guests.”
it’s odd that i can google it either; the closest i could find was an accusation that epstein took him on a flight: https://www.businessinsider.nl/renowned-academic-noam-chomsky-told-the-wall-street-journal-that-his-meetings-with-jeffrey-epstein-are-none-of-your-business/
it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.
it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.
No, it just sounds like Chomsky never actually visited that island. It’s not going to be scrubbed because there are lots of right-wing “journalists” and rags that would absolutely love being able to prove that Chomsky did.
For the record.
Fuck Israel.
And fuck it’s supporters and enablers, too.
Really helps you get a new level of respect for Muhammed Ali who was actually a massive celebrity on the right side of history.
he puts all those hollywood S-tier clueless celebrity twats to shame. The Rock and Justin Bieber were sharing pics of Gaza destruction on fire saying “Oct-7 pray for Israel” because they dont know shit about Palestine neither Israel, and were told to follow narrative or get cancelled. None of them has any principle or moral stand on anything. They’re all sold.
When we stop being afraid of the fuck ups who are doing this, we can stop it from ever happening again. Unfortunately the population is ruled by fear, bread, and circus.
This quote goes so hard
