Raw, that’s a hell no because the NPC didn’t agree to be turned into a sword (and iirc, that’s outside the scope of the spell anyway, no inanimate objects).
It’s really not something that would work in a stable game setting.
That being said, it could still be allowed without being game breaking as long as the DM is willing to make the exception to the rules have a reason for happening. Say, the NPC had gained the attention of some entity that took the opportunity to intervene. Or maybe the NPC felt it coming, and decided to go along with it for nefarious purposes. There’s all kinds of single event exceptions possible.
Yeah. At the very least the wizard should have to roll a deception check.
In 5e it would have to be a beast. A very magical sword if you ask me.
“shouldn’t have a will save because they agreed to it”
And this is probably how fey/genies/demons/vampires/Disney are a thing.
What was that last one?
When you sign up for Disney+, they think they’re allowed to kill you with allergens without ending up in a real court room.
Naw I was asking about Disney, not the Demons
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Phrasing is important, right?
If the reaction wasn’t an immediate “I’ll allow it” then you aren’t a fun dm
The NPC did not agree to be polymorphed into a sword, so there would absolutely be a will save.
Yeah they did, they said “yes” to them asking “can I make you a magical sword”
Yes, and their understanding was that they were going to be given a magical sword. It doesn’t matter if the words used were misleading, what matters is what the person thinks they agreed to.
Or maybe the mage is crazy about deals with the devils / geanies, knew exactly what would happen and actually wanted to be polymorphed into a sword. Saying “no” to curb a creative player will simply make them not want to be creative anymore. It’s standup rules - “no saying no, instead say yes, and” to add something interesting happening.
What matters is how will saves with polymorphs work - if you’re taking a person by surprise the mechanics should be consistent. If a genie did the same thing there would still be a will save if they’re doing something that was not the intent of the wisher. Being creative is great, but you have to adhere to the internal rules of the world while doing so.
If you want to go that route then polymorphing can only be done by changing them into a creature. Not a sword. So womp womp. One of the first sentences in the DM guide is “all rules can be changed if it means more fun for the players”.
I won’t belabor that point, because true polymorph exists, and if this character has that ability it can be assumed that’s the spell he means to use. If he doesn’t then it wouldn’t work if he tried.
All rules CAN be changed, but they need a good reason. This guy is trying to cheat the system (skipping a will check). “I said some words but didn’t actually get consent to cast the spell I’m going to cast” isn’t a good enough reason.
