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      You see it. I see it. Jon Stewart sees it since forever.

      The shills on Lemmy and other places like gaslighting. A lot.

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        I have a feeling the DNC shills we’ve been seeing so much of are actually part of a DNC campaign. Creating a Lemmy account is free and they could easily contract a company to astroturf as has been done in the past.

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    Stewart is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was “no primary” is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that’s how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie’s primary chances?

    You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don’t care how good the DNC’s legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

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      We didn’t have a primary. Dean Phillips was the only real Democrat challenging Biden, he wasn’t on the ballot in half the states, and he was run out of the party for challenging the incumbent. They forced him to step down from leadership, they got someone to primary him for his house seat, and he’s now dropped out of politics.

      But let’s ignore that for a minute. The administration and the DNC also kept Biden’s decline from the public. They carefully manipulated his public appearances to make sure his mental state wasn’t fully known until he was on a debate stage with Trump. The voters were defrauded. The result of that fraud is that we are saddled with a candidate that cannot win. Demanding the DNC fix this colossal fuck-up so we have a shot of winning isn’t just fair, it’s the only reasonable course of action at this point.

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        Do you remember the special investigator’s report into Biden keeping classified documents? They said Biden legitimately had a really bad memory at the time forgetting many important life events, and the Biden campaign then tried having them change it and then Biden claimed executive privilege over the tapes? The Biden campaign literally used executive privilege to try to prevent Biden’s memory issues from becoming public.

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      if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

      Exactly. When one primary candidate won in 2016, the party nominated the other candidate. Your primary vote doesn’t matter. SCOTUS even agreed with you, stating that if one doesn’t like how private organizations run their primaries then they shouldn’t participate in them.

      Why would anyone ever vote in the primary again?

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        Are you talking about Bernie? He literally got less primary votes, thats why he lost, period. I agree the DNC tried to fuck him over, but at the end of the day he got less votes and that’s all there is to it. If Bernie’s voters were as vote-happy as they were loud, he would have been the winner of the primary.

        They implemented a number of reforms after Wikileaks exposed their corrupt practices, their primary system is more fair and robust than it was in 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Reforms_since_2016

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          It must be noted that the same people who told me that Bernie was too old in 2016 are now telling me that Biden is fine.

          Also, that’s not even the thing that’s most concerning. The thing that’s most concerning is that Biden doesn’t appear to understand that if he loses, we probably also lose democracy. But that’s ok because he’ll have tried his goodest.

          I dunno man. That sounds a hell of a lot like malarkey to me.

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            Lol, you saying Biden will have tried his goodest here cracks me up. Only the Lord Almighty can save us from Biden.

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          Bernie got fewer votes, but it was the result of blatant cheating. So its much more correct to say he was the rightful winner of it, especially considering that he would have beaten trump (according to polls). So he was a better representation of both the will of the people had there not been meddling, and the greater good for the left.

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            DNC knew this too. They knew Bernie was polling better. The DNC said we don’t care about what our voters want, we know better, and if you don’t pledge to our candidate then we’ll convince our cult members that you’re a Trump supporter.

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    This is dumb as fuck . John is running his mouth half educated.

    There was a primary. Biden won. Nobody was going to beat Biden, not even close.

    But now, John wants to with 4 months to go, pull out the sitting president with a lack of confidence 4 months before an election.

    All this because he is old and tired WHILE Ignoring that ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS.

    John and fuckers supporting this shit deserve Trump.

    Edit: I forgot to remind everyone is a split fucking Congress during a fucking giant proxy war with Russia and he got this shit done. Probably the most effective president of the past 50 years.

    WHAT BIDEN HAS DONE - YEAR FOUR

    YEAR FOUR:

    Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession

    Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama

    Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%

    $1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN

    $600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.

    $427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.

    $372 million to replace Cape Cod’s nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.

    $300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.

    $95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.

    $142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as “the bathtub” due to its regular flooding.

    $150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.

    Modernizes American port infrastructure

    $3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities

    $623 million to build EV charging network

    Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses

    $426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm

    Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world

    US oil production hits all-time high

    Rescinds Trump-era “Denial of Care” rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief

    Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center

    US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010

    $250 million to modernize airports in 37 states

    $4.4 million to upgrade Maine’s power grid

    Violent crime drop significantly since 2020

    $5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure

    Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans

    Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure

    $500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience

    $1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population

    $1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030

    $1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites

    $28 billion towards substance abuse treatment

    $366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas

    Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8

    Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness

    Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern

    Bans asbestos

    Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road

    Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries

    Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant

    Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development

    Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump

    Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado

    First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water

    “Last resort” program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes

    America’s economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries

    Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity

    Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining

    $7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households

    Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually

    Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights

    Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030

    Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero

    Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own

    Reinstates net neutrality

    Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity

    Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act

    Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students

    In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do

    Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line

    Bans Russian uranium imports

    $16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities

    Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers

    Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded

    Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)

    Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports

    Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay

    Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease

    Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage

    Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so

    RESULTS:

    COVID-19 vaccination program saved $732 billion, averting illness and related costs during the Delta and Omicron variant waves, with a return of nearly $90 for every dollar spent

    Black unemployment at 4.7% - The lowest in US history

    Stock market at record highs - Above 40,000 for the first time in history

    13.2 million jobs added

    Record number of states with unemployment rates at or below 3%

    National unemployment rate below 4% for the longest stretch in more than 50 years

    First Quarter Crime Statistics

    Murder: Down 26.4%

    Rape down: Down 25.7%

    Robbery down: Down 17.8%

    Aggravated Assault: Down 12.5%

    Property Crime: Down 15.1%

    Domestic manufacturing up 279% since Biden took office

    Average hourly earnings up 22.28% since February 2020, surpassing the rate of inflation

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      Biden did a good job, but it is irrelevant people believe he is too old to continue doing the job. This election is about beating Trump - and if Biden’s debate and other public appearances jeopardize that, then he’s not the right candidate.

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        Even if the Lord Almighty comes down and tells Biden to drop out would Biden consider it. He may not even listen to God.

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      Stfu dude, we all know there wasnt a primary, you sound like an idiot. And why the irrelevant wall of text?

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        Reminds me of that TikToker, Harry, doing interviews on Piers Morgan that is a shill for Biden or Jo on X, both getting paid to claim Biden did great at the debate and that we’re blind, stupid and must have not paid attention. The say thing like “only Biden can beat Trump.”

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      I’m disappointed in Stewart for this. I understand he’s just a comedian, but he seemed to actually have some good takes and be getting more involved in serious politics over the past few years.

      Changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election. I’m convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.

      It’s also bizarre seeing so many so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump… Did we learn nothing in 2016? Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort. I wasn’t a huge fan of Biden back then, but he has exceeded my expectations significantly. I’m disappointed that there aren’t any viable younger candidates (that’s still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary), but that’s certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again.

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        I’m convinced people that are saying the exact same things you just said actually are Trump supporters and want Trump to win.

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          Supporting the incumbent president and primary winner, who has the perhaps the most progressive accomplishments since FDR, who already beat Trump in the last election… Is supporting Trump?

          That’s some gold medals mental gymnastics.

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            Most progressive accomplishments since FDR? Please spare me the Biden-paid shill speech. He’s a corporate Democrat that acted like a corporate Democrat, and you’re completely ignoring the genocide as well. Biden was not a a progressive candidate. Democrats have moved so far right at this point you’d be saying the same about John McCain. Biden is losing and will lose to Trump. Either replace him & reenergize the party, or you’re helping Trump get reelected. End of story.